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Can we PLEASE get a defacto, unambiguous Dev Stance on the any weapons any class mod?

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14 days ago
Sep 29, 2024, 9:09:09 AM

I am DYING to use the mod that allows any class to use any weapon (does not add ability or Heavy to use melee or Assault to use Primary, etc, however) BUT I will not risk it until we know the OFFICIAL dev stance on this particular mod.


Please can we get a very clear Red or Green light for this mod? Is it considered Cheating and bans are to be expected in some future banwave or can we use this without fear?


EDIT: I should clarify that I want to use this mod IN PRIVATE PvE LOBBIES with my friends. Not Matchmaking, and ESPECIALLY NOT PvP mode. Sorry for not realizing I ought to clarify that sooner.

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14 days ago
Sep 29, 2024, 11:58:32 AM

It wouldn't be a mod, it would be a hack. Certain classes have access to certain weapons and others are limited for a reason. What you propose would completely imbalance the game  if you talk about pvp, in pve - that's a different story. I know that a tactical can wield any weapon actually, even the heavy ones - but this is a competitive game, we need some kind of balance.

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14 days ago
Sep 29, 2024, 4:56:13 PM
Official stance is that cheating is not okay. Modding in general isn't prohibited. So don't use mods that help you cheat. Infinite life? Nope. Weapons on wrong classes? Nope. Play as Calgar or Chaplain? Sure. Nude mod? Err, suuure...

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14 days ago
Sep 29, 2024, 6:20:54 PM

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FatherGoose wrote:

You want to use this mod in Ops with other people and gain class levels and weapon XP with it?  If so, Bladerunner is right, that's absolutely just a hack. 

Ah I should've known to mention I want to use it privately with friends.

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14 days ago
Sep 29, 2024, 6:24:03 PM

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Skjeggfanden wrote:
Official stance is that cheating is not okay. Modding in general isn't prohibited. So don't use mods that help you cheat. Infinite life? Nope. Weapons on wrong classes? Nope. Play as Calgar or Chaplain? Sure. Nude mod? Err, suuure...

This is my fault for posting this so late, while being so tired. I really want to use it /with friends/ in private lobbies, not in matchmaking, especially NOT in PvP.

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13 days ago
Sep 29, 2024, 8:49:25 PM

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Slicevicious wrote:

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FatherGoose wrote:

You want to use this mod in Ops with other people and gain class levels and weapon XP with it?  If so, Bladerunner is right, that's absolutely just a hack. 

Ah I should've known to mention I want to use it privately with friends.

You're still progressing your account and unlocking things on it in their system.  Unfortunately that's still just a hack.  


I would avoid it if I were you, especially if you're not sure. 

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13 days ago
Sep 29, 2024, 9:15:30 PM

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FatherGoose wrote:

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Slicevicious wrote:

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FatherGoose wrote:

You want to use this mod in Ops with other people and gain class levels and weapon XP with it?  If so, Bladerunner is right, that's absolutely just a hack. 

Ah I should've known to mention I want to use it privately with friends.

You're still progressing your account and unlocking things on it in their system.  Unfortunately that's still just a hack.  


I would avoid it if I were you, especially if you're not sure. 

I am absolutely avoiding it, I assure you. I would not use this mod without the dev's blessing, which is why I made this thread. Hoping to find out definitively if the devs would allow or punish it.

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12 days ago
Sep 30, 2024, 8:58:30 PM

This would be something you would have to use with steam OFFLINE in order to avoid anti-cheats.  To be fully sure you would also want to remove and verify files before taking the game back online.

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12 days ago
Oct 1, 2024, 12:06:42 AM

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This would be something you would have to use with steam OFFLINE in order to avoid anti-cheats.  To be fully sure you would also want to remove and verify files before taking the game back online.

It works Online (not that you should use it online) and no one has reported getting banned yet, that is not the purpose of my question. Nor do I want to use it alone, but rather with friend groups in private lobbies.


I am asking if the Devs intend to crack down specifically and intentionally on people using that mod.


I am not worried about EAC catching it, since EAC is notoriously useless

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12 days ago
Oct 1, 2024, 4:58:28 AM

There's a saying that I think works quite well in most cases.
"If you have to ask if it's allowed or not, it probably isn't."

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12 days ago
Oct 1, 2024, 5:28:22 AM

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Rexipher wrote:

There's a saying that I think works quite well in most cases.
"If you have to ask if it's allowed or not, it probably isn't."

I am sure it *probably* isn't but I'd like, as the title may suggest, a definitive answer. I don't feel like I am hurting anyone if I use it in private lobbies with friends who are OK with me using thunder hammer on a bulwark.

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12 days ago
Oct 1, 2024, 5:48:44 AM

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Slicevicious wrote:

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Rexipher wrote:

There's a saying that I think works quite well in most cases.
"If you have to ask if it's allowed or not, it probably isn't."

I am sure it *probably* isn't but I'd like, as the title may suggest, a definitive answer. I don't feel like I am hurting anyone if I use it in private lobbies with friends who are OK with me using thunder hammer on a bulwark.

In private/offline games I see no problems personally.
But it is when people take those mods into online games with randoms it becomes a problem.
I've seen people defend it saying "it's only PvE." That doesn't change the fact that there are mods that alters how the game is played and not everyone wants those mods effecting their time in the game.
So if people use mods, use them responsibly and respect those around you.


These are my personal opinions ofc. What the official stance is would be good to hear.

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12 days ago
Oct 1, 2024, 5:53:57 AM

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Rexipher wrote:

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Slicevicious wrote:

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Rexipher wrote:

There's a saying that I think works quite well in most cases.
"If you have to ask if it's allowed or not, it probably isn't."

I am sure it *probably* isn't but I'd like, as the title may suggest, a definitive answer. I don't feel like I am hurting anyone if I use it in private lobbies with friends who are OK with me using thunder hammer on a bulwark.

In private/offline games I see no problems personally.
But it is when people take those mods into online games with randoms it becomes a problem.
I've seen people defend it saying "it's only PvE." That doesn't change the fact that there are mods that alters how the game is played and not everyone wants those mods effecting their time in the game.
So if people use mods, use them responsibly and respect those around you.


These are my personal opinions ofc. What the official stance is would be good to hear.

I agree entirely. I am really hoping they can spare 2 minutes to let us know if they intend to crack down on anyone using it privately.

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