WHAT IS GOING ON? WHY ARE WE BEING ATTACKED BY 8 HIVE WARRIORS, SWARMS, MULTIPLE NEUROTHROPES AND A RAVENER AT THE SAME TIME REPEATEDLY ON AVERAGE DIFFICULTY? THERE'S ONLY 3 OF US. WE HAVE BEEN PLAYING ON HARD AND NORMAL BUT NOW WE ARE ON EASY. THEY BUFFED ALL THE SPAWNS AND ALL THE ENEMIES IT SEEMS. THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE LAST PATCH WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. WEVE ALL RAGE QUIT ON THE GAME NOW AND ARENT PLAYING. THE BALANCING IS GOD AWFUL AND ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIC. THERES TOO MANY ENEMY SPAWNS.

ITS NO LONGER FUN TO PLAY AS OF YESTERDAY. TOO MANY SPAWNS.

Haven’t noticed anything on Ruthless.

Okay Im glad its not just me. I was playing yesterday and noticed I was struggling way more than I normally would. My first instinct was to check here and discord but I cant find anything that says they changed something. 

Can i have more of it? It so much fun when practically owerwhelmed with melee warriors, blood for the blood god!

​If so, that's a good sign, because with the last patch they seemed to have overdone it a bit, with the chaos nerf, there were often empty maps where you couldn't see a single enemy for 5 minutes.

I think they revert the AI director tweak because it was associated with the stuttering

TBH I've noticed it a little, and I freaking love it. Nothing like perfectly timed parry and dodges with 8 warriors surrounding me.

Not gonna lie, substantial feels "easier to manage" now than minimal for the sheer swarm factor.

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badken wrote:

All the tryhards saying how awesome it is that it is more difficult are completely missing the damn point. It is too difficult ON THE EASIEST DIFFICULTY.

The higher difficulty levels are for people who are looking for a challenge. The lower difficulty levels are for people who, for whatever reason, require less overwhelming enemies.

If you like it difficult, more power to you. Enjoy the higher difficulty levels. As for me, the increased difficulty in operations on MINIMAL threat simply means that I can't play operations. It's either too frustrating or I can't make it through to the end of a mission.

​They didn’t increase the difficulty, they fixed the AI director who didn’t work and didn’t spawn enemies, on easy difficulty everything is easy to pass even with bots, people even on ruthless calmly pass with bots (except for the bug with bosses to which AIs don’t do damage) I myself am not an eSports player and I calmly run at a low difficulty level in a relaxed state, a hack here, apparently you don’t want to become at least a little better in the game

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badken wrote:

All the tryhards saying how awesome it is that it is more difficult are completely missing the damn point. It is too difficult ON THE EASIEST DIFFICULTY.

The higher difficulty levels are for people who are looking for a challenge. The lower difficulty levels are for people who, for whatever reason, require less overwhelming enemies.

If you like it difficult, more power to you. Enjoy the higher difficulty levels. As for me, the increased difficulty in operations on MINIMAL threat simply means that I can't play operations. It's either too frustrating or I can't make it through to the end of a mission.

brother would you like the emperors angel by your side? I could help you out a bit

Enemies and spawns havent been buffed

 What enemies and size of the swarm is random, it's never the same. 

Yes 2 Zoanthropes spawn at once and a swarm can come.

When a wave is incoming you cant just run to the assembly zone and expect it to disappear. They will follow to the other side. for instance, during Inferno when youre at the Guard camp and a wave spawns, running to the next assembly zone wont make em disappear, they will follow to next zonee. Some assembly areas will stop a swarm but not all. 

If you've having issues on Average then you need to level up and get better weapons.  

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badken wrote:

All the tryhards saying how awesome it is that it is more difficult are completely missing the damn point. It is too difficult ON THE EASIEST DIFFICULTY.

The higher difficulty levels are for people who are looking for a challenge. The lower difficulty levels are for people who, for whatever reason, require less overwhelming enemies.

If you like it difficult, more power to you. Enjoy the higher difficulty levels. As for me, the increased difficulty in operations on MINIMAL threat simply means that I can't play operations. It's either too frustrating or I can't make it through to the end of a mission.

Look, Average or minimal doesn't mean you wont face big waves of enemies, they just have less Hp and do less dmg. 

You need to learn how to play, you gotta parry, dodge, avoid getting overwhelmed. 

Even on the easiest difficulty things can go wrong. 

It's not about being a pro gamer, you need to learn how to play. Level up your classes, dont jump into Average at level 1 with base weapons if you're  not comfortable with the game. 

I've had Average Operations feel extremely easy and sometimes it feels like I'm on Substantial because of a major swarm incoming. 

If you need help I'll join ya, no problem. I'll even carry you through Substantial or ruthless for better weapons. 

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AveDominusNoxVIII wrote:

Enemies and spawns havent been buffed

 What enemies and size of the swarm is random, it's never the same. 

Yes 2 Zoanthropes spawn at once and a swarm can come.

When a wave is incoming you cant just run to the assembly zone and expect it to disappear. They will follow to the other side. for instance, during Inferno when youre at the Guard camp and a wave spawns, running to the next assembly zone wont make em disappear, they will follow to next zonee. Some assembly areas will stop a swarm but not all. 

If you've having issues on Average then you need to level up and get better weapons.  

No, i can tell for sure that it was buffed (more swarn, more majoris, more extremis, and with more swarn it's meen more swarn callers) I mean before the weekend it was to easy, i could solo on ruthless with Heavy, but now is hell to solo on substantial, maybe we need something in between