Can we get a mod menu for console so we can download the astartis mod or even better just put the astartis mod in game as a game mode

I don't understand, and I say this out of respect for this franchise, how you can like the mod. Some things are fine! Of course. But are you really content with mixing meaningless pieces so that D does your marine look good? Instead of receiving a quality, well-finished product...

Don't get me wrong, these guys do an incredible job. But they're just going with what the fans want, without considering how that affects gameplay. And that is a mistake.

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Khorne_Flakes wrote:

I don't understand, and I say this out of respect for this franchise, how you can like the mod. Some things are fine! Of course. But are you really content with mixing meaningless pieces so that D does your marine look good? Instead of receiving a quality, well-finished product...

Don't get me wrong, these guys do an incredible job. But they're just going with what the fans want, without considering how that affects gameplay. And that is a mistake.

Some people prefer that. It's fine. That's why the mod is popular in the first place. That said, saber could really try a little harder on monitoring bug reports... 

Khorne_Flakes wrote:
But they're just going with what the fans want, without considering how that affects gameplay.

As someone who's been doing game design for the past 15 years (oh god i'm so old), "what the fans want" is usually what you should be doing. Fun and expression are more important than balance, always.

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Kith wrote:

Khorne_Flakes wrote:
But they're just going with what the fans want, without considering how that affects gameplay.

As someone who's been doing game design for the past 15 years (oh god i'm so old), "what the fans want" is usually what you should be doing. Fun and expression are more important than balance, always.

15 years, wow, is a long time. I haven't been here that long, but I've learned to "set limits" on creativity to respect the lore. I completely understand your point of view and share it. It should be more flexible. We offer constructive criticism for the Gameplay 

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Evilevilterry wrote:

Can we get a mod menu for console so we can download the astartis mod or even better just put the astartis mod in game as a game mode

If you join a lobby that is being hosted by a pc player using the astartes overhaul mod then you will be able to take part in the modded games with 12 players etc. It does not work 100% of the time but it does most of the time. It might be worth you joining the warhammer workshop discord so you can find people running the mod to invite you to games.

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Khorne_Flakes wrote:

15 years, wow, is a long time. I haven't been here that long, but I've learned to "set limits" on creativity to respect the lore. I completely understand your point of view and share it. It should be more flexible. We offer constructive criticism for the Gameplay 

Oh absolutely, the lore is important (and in games like these, the point).

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Khorne_Flakes wrote:

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Kith wrote:

Khorne_Flakes wrote:
But they're just going with what the fans want, without considering how that affects gameplay.

As someone who's been doing game design for the past 15 years (oh god i'm so old), "what the fans want" is usually what you should be doing. Fun and expression are more important than balance, always.

15 years, wow, is a long time. I haven't been here that long, but I've learned to "set limits" on creativity to respect the lore. I completely understand your point of view and share it. It should be more flexible. We offer constructive criticism for the Gameplay 

You can paint a black templar pink if you want in vanilla game.... you are tripping with this state of thought dude...

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Khorne_Flakes wrote:

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Kith wrote:

Khorne_Flakes wrote:
But they're just going with what the fans want, without considering how that affects gameplay.

As someone who's been doing game design for the past 15 years (oh god i'm so old), "what the fans want" is usually what you should be doing. Fun and expression are more important than balance, always.

15 years, wow, is a long time. I haven't been here that long, but I've learned to "set limits" on creativity to respect the lore. I completely understand your point of view and share it. It should be more flexible. We offer constructive criticism for the Gameplay 

You can paint a black templar pink if you want in vanilla game.... you are tripping with this state of thought dude...

I don't understand, are you complaining about being given freedom? That's not what my message is about, dude.

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Kith wrote:

Khorne_Flakes wrote:
But they're just going with what the fans want, without considering how that affects gameplay.

As someone who's been doing game design for the past 15 years (oh god i'm so old), "what the fans want" is usually what you should be doing. Fun and expression are more important than balance, always.

The only problem with going with "what the fans want" is that fans do not know what they want and/or you only get feedback from a small potion of the players.

Just look at this forum. How many player do you think have posted here? 50%? 10%?

I guess that its less that 5% and of those 5% we mostly get players that complain.

Sure there are people that give valid and conductive feedback. 

But even then its based on what they want from the game, and not what the majority might like in the game.

I think focus are doing a lot of work, some of it I like, some I don't.

For example, I don't like that you can be the same class in the operations.

But I also know that changing that is not as easy as the mods makes it look.

Just take the voice acting, how do you get around that? Drop it completely? Add more characters/voice lines?  or let the characters be any class the player wants?

I do not know what would be the get way to go, but I can give my feedback and they can take it or leave it.