When I first saw this (after playing Story) I assumed it was a bug, it is so bad. But it isn't a bug, it really is this useless. Even in the Trials for the Assault, there are ledges only 2-3 meters high that you can't even jump pack on top of.

I believe the likely explanation is that the level layouts have issues that preclude the kind of mobility that you have in the Story missions where jump packs are present, as those specific levels are designed for them.

However, it should be possible to make the assault pack both jump higher and boost forward much further without creating an issue with respect to level design. Making the recharge time for a single charge very short and increasing the number of charges will turn it into a general mobility tool and assault charge tool, which is a different overall character than the extreme verticality available in the campaign. But it will be effective, useful, and thematically appropriate.

I completly agree. I should be able to jet in and out of combat anywhere. I keep getting stuck on ledges or stunlocked so I can't escape. 

Agreed..  I thought assault was going to be a go in smash get out..  instead it plays more like go in and become a weaker bulwark class. The smash and go feel of the campaign is definitely not there 

Assault Jump pack mobility is in a weird spot, sometimes you can't simply jump over ledges you have to be in the floor that you wanna execute the ground pound.  Even speccing into ground pound kill = recharge bonus I don't feel that I can get much mileage from it.

The story jetpacks are pretty good. Once you go into Operations or PvP, the design is so preoccupied with restricting them that they become borderline useless. I'm not sure why, I just noticed an intense difference.

At Max level the assult can jump around like a mad man

Please fully level before complaining.

It's terrible compared to the PvP and Story version , its weird because the PvP version is done really well , you can go up really high in the sky so you can make flanks or get targets up on ledges and you can hover aim and it regenerates decently fast, then you play it in operations and you barely go up in the sky so you can't really make distance with your melee dive attack and you absolutely cant even get up on height. Same with Vanguard grapple in PvP you can grapple to floors and walls to manuever around the battlefield and up onto ledges in operations you can only use it on enemies which severly limits its maneuvering capability especially for such a squishy class

Personally, I think the main problem with all melee in PvP is that melee weapon attacks don't stop the enemy from shooting at you. In the first Space marine, strong blows stunned the enemy for a fraction of a second, preventing him from shooting, which allowed him to play in close combat. I am sure that the parry system that exists in Space marine 2 could work perfectly with what I described above, making melee interesting and deep, and not useless, as it is now.

If you think melee is useless you aren't paying attention.

I agree with everything said here. The lack of verticality, charge speed of the skill and NO HOVER FUNCTION just makes it feel like a lackluster version of the Campaign/PVP jump pack. The assault needs a rework in that regard. /sad

I only made an account on this website for this very post,  Assault class in Story and PVP feel amazing, in Operations it feel unplayable at higher levels, you jump in cant escape and get absolutely destroyed, just change the cooldown to the PVP version with 3 charges and it will be great, its my biggest criticism on the game (other than low rewards per mission)

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Arkilonn wrote:

Personally, I think the main problem with all melee in PvP is that melee weapon attacks don't stop the enemy from shooting at you. In the first Space marine, strong blows stunned the enemy for a fraction of a second, preventing him from shooting, which allowed him to play in close combat. I am sure that the parry system that exists in Space marine 2 could work perfectly with what I described above, making melee interesting and deep, and not useless, as it is now.

Really? I found kind of the opposite in PVP I found that it was kind of one big stunlocking fest where a vanguard grapples into your face and by the time you can actually do something 99% of your health is gone and he's just putting the last hit/shot into you.
Or bulwarks just walking forward ignoring unholy amounts of firepower coming their way with their shields up.

they should just make the assualt jump pack work the same across all 3 game modes. the jump pack is extremely nerfed in operations and PVP

To whoever said level up first, having to level up first to make the class remotely functional is not good game design.

Even levelled up, I can't see how it can possibly play well. The wait between jumppack uses is still too long, the jumppack is so restricted it sometimes doesn't even work, and the dash ability costing jumppack uses needs to be reverted. You sacrifice having a shield or a gun and gain so little.

Easy fix, let the assault marine freely dodge/dash with their jumppack without cooldown. Remove restrictions to activating the jumppack and let it hover a bit higher, just restrict where you can land to be in the play area. And boost the damage, make them squishy but deadly.

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Nigwyn wrote:

To whoever said level up first, having to level up first to make the class remotely functional is not good game design.

Even levelled up, I can't see how it can possibly play well. The wait between jumppack uses is still too long, the jumppack is so restricted it sometimes doesn't even work, and the dash ability costing jumppack uses needs to be reverted. You sacrifice having a shield or a gun and gain so little.

Easy fix, let the assault marine freely dodge/dash with their jumppack without cooldown. Remove restrictions to activating the jumppack and let it hover a bit higher, just restrict where you can land to be in the play area. And boost the damage, make them squishy but deadly.

It's because they haven't leveled up and just talking out of their behind. They watched some YouTuber thinking it's because they are leveled not understanding that the massive cool down was from another class team perk not from the class itself.

It really does feel bad. The perks also aren't good for the harder difficulties (charging heavy attacks, no knock backs). If you stay in one spot charging your heavy attack in higher difficulty operations, you're dead. They need to add more melee damage mitigation.  A third jump pack charge is also necessary. Ultimately the class is just a worse version of the Bulwark  most of the time.