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Artisan wrote:

I also don't agree, assault is in a good spot. This game's PvP doesn't need to tun into a B-tier pew-pew fest, since melee is already pretty terrible. Assault makes it interesting and opens up some plays. If you can't counter it it just means you got caught in the open with no back up, and deserve to die to a f'ing space marine coming down on you from above with a thunder hammer - lore accurate.

That being said, have you ever been killed while many feet away from an Assault player's ground pound... My connection to the servers is generally ok as well. Assaults Ground Pound is a problem & the radius should be reduced. It opens up the opportunity to counter when your not stunned if they mess up. The radius is massive & I've gone 30+ in drawn out matches. No other class can do that as easily as Assault can because the risk is always worth the reward where as all other classes are quite literally the opposite, maybe Tactical comes close to Assault in that respect but it's FAR more of a balanced Class.

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ChaosStruck6789 wrote:

I swear every engagement is get hit by the Assault's jump pack slam, get stunned into another one and die. This would be fine if it requires more skill on the player using the Assault to pull off, but the radius of the slam is too large and it's impossible to defend against. The Assault can also go directly into the second jet pack slam after your stun animation finishes, meaning you can't even get any damage off.   

You can't have 3 charges of the thing that kills players in 2 attempts. Either the radius needs to be reduced so opposing players can actually dodge out of it and not be affected by the slam or get rid of the AoE damage done by the slam and limit the damage to the point of impact only and keep the radius the same for the AoE stun. The AoE can't have both traits, hard hitting and CC, it's just way too OP in PvP. Another option is for the slam to use up an ability charge, meaning they get one slam in. 

To recap options.

1. Reduce radius on slam

2. Remove AoE damage and keep AoE stun on slam (still does damage to target hit)

3. Slam uses up a Jet Pack ability charge

I'm also in the camp that the Assault should have 3 Armor Bars due to their Tacticus Power Armor. I thought they'd be more of a brawler than an assassin in-game.  

Hey, just a heads up! You're always going to get lash back from defenders of the Class or developer sympathizers who justify every action taken by them, even if the reception is overwhelmingly negative from the player base. Be ready for that when posting here because the negative opinions are there to sooth out any critique of even aspects of the Class. Be ready to respond with proper critique that is indefensible.

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Kamswell wrote:
PvP assault really isn't that busted in my opinion, his ground pound is very punishing but depending on the team's awareness it can be very high risk/high reward and I've noticed that most assault players suck 80% of the time and even that other 20% is still pretty manageable. 
In my experience Assault really only thrives against teams that don't ping or pay enough attention to the skies and jump pack sound queues. The best way to beat a good/competent assault across the board is to hard focus him, give them no room to breath and don't allow them to get any momentum. Anytime I play and I can tell the enemy assault player is competent I ping them the moment I see them and start chipping away at those shields, If I cant get the kill at the very least I can make them as uncomfortable as possible to remove that threat against my team. 
Also feel like the best classes to hard counter assault are another assault on your team since you can basically use his own kit against him or a vanguard who can momentarily trap an assault on the ground and allow your team the time to kill him before he jumps again.

You just pointed out my main gripe while in defense of it's "over tuned' capabilities... Assault requires another Assault player to hard counter. Otherwise, you will be caught off guard because you can't always pay attention to sound ques in this game due to them being inaccurate at many times depending on Ping.

I'm sorry man but It's really not hard to see an assault coming at all, like I said most of them suck and just do the basic jump + ground pound combo, you can easily punish that by pinging and lighting them up anytime you see them. You do not necessarily always need another assault on your team to hard counter him (though it obviously does help), you can easily melt an assault in the air with just two people focusing him because the TTK is still pretty fast. 
Most people do not use their ping option and have very poor situational awareness which allows Assault to get free kills, it's less the character and more people just being lazy and not paying enough attention to the skies. I've seen the exact same comments for other multiplayer games like Overwatch and Gundam Evolution and 90% of the time it's from people who simply don't pay attention or give the flying characters enough respect.

The only thing I can really agree on is that his radius is a bit much and people should have the opportunity to dodge out of the way (assuming the assault doesn't hard read their movement), other than that I would consider making his jump pack recharge slightly longer.

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Kamswell wrote:

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Sky009 wrote:

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Kamswell wrote:
PvP assault really isn't that busted in my opinion, his ground pound is very punishing but depending on the team's awareness it can be very high risk/high reward and I've noticed that most assault players suck 80% of the time and even that other 20% is still pretty manageable. 
In my experience Assault really only thrives against teams that don't ping or pay enough attention to the skies and jump pack sound queues. The best way to beat a good/competent assault across the board is to hard focus him, give them no room to breath and don't allow them to get any momentum. Anytime I play and I can tell the enemy assault player is competent I ping them the moment I see them and start chipping away at those shields, If I cant get the kill at the very least I can make them as uncomfortable as possible to remove that threat against my team. 
Also feel like the best classes to hard counter assault are another assault on your team since you can basically use his own kit against him or a vanguard who can momentarily trap an assault on the ground and allow your team the time to kill him before he jumps again.

You just pointed out my main gripe while in defense of it's "over tuned' capabilities... Assault requires another Assault player to hard counter. Otherwise, you will be caught off guard because you can't always pay attention to sound ques in this game due to them being inaccurate at many times depending on Ping.

I'm sorry man but It's really not hard to see an assault coming at all, like I said most of them suck and just do the basic jump + ground pound combo, you can easily punish that by pinging and lighting them up anytime you see them. You do not necessarily always need another assault on your team to hard counter him (though it obviously does help), you can easily melt an assault in the air with just two people focusing him because the TTK is still pretty fast. 
Most people do not use their ping option and have very poor situational awareness which allows Assault to get free kills, it's less the character and more people just being lazy and not paying enough attention to the skies. I've seen the exact same comments for other multiplayer games like Overwatch and Gundam Evolution and 90% of the time it's from people who simply don't pay attention or give the flying characters enough respect.

The only thing I can really agree on is that his radius is a bit much and people should have the opportunity to dodge out of the way (assuming the assault doesn't hard read their movement), other than that I would consider making his jump pack recharge slightly longer.

The Radius of the Hammer strike should be reduced & damage outside of the radius should be reduced. I've gotten one-shot ground pounds in before & others have even given them to me, at FULL HEALTH. Another issue is player connection issues interfering with where the strike registers If you actually have distance away from the Hammer hit radius. Avoiding Assault is not a hard thing to do but you will eventually get caught off guard. What is the proper counter up close for the up down mayhem in a close quarters engagement? I've killed multiple people with the non stop up down spree & I've rarely gotten countered without significant range.... Your point also doesn't negate the issues with the extremely wide hit radius that stuns you into the follow up. Am I missing something here? Vanguard got checked for it's ability to do something very similar to what we see people doing with Assault, sir. The up, down, up, down, up, down is not something you can easily deal with or even counter for that matter. There is no pause in between each strike... It's easier for some Classes to DPS the Assault player out of the sky but what if you don't see them coming? I get the damage but even rolling seems to get you caught into the follow up Pommel strike, that's excluding if he just hops low height for an immediate follow up. Connection issues also effect the sounds you hear in game, what if the enemy Assault player is laggy with high ping? I've ran into that plenty of times.