And by that i mean, pre relentless nerf and pre lethal nerf? They werent particularly hard, but at least required you to turn on a % of your brain to complete.

No.

This game isn't hard to play per se, just very mentally taxing.

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bagels wrote:

its hard if you play with some of the adeptus retardes from these forums LOL

We are all of us a part of the adeptus retardes, brother.

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Shining_Darkness wrote:

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bagels wrote:

its hard if you play with some of the adeptus retardes from these forums LOL

We are all of us a part of the adeptus retardes, brother.

LOL

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Tuffkid wrote:

And by that i mean, pre relentless nerf and pre lethal nerf? They werent particularly hard, but at least required you to turn on a % of your brain to complete.

Man shut the hell up. People like you ruin games for everyone else. Maybe go back to Fortnite with your little ADHD 12 year old tween friends. Adults are over here having fun.

Maybe drop the difficulty if its too overwhelming for you that people want a harder challenge.

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Razdek wrote:

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Tuffkid wrote:

And by that i mean, pre relentless nerf and pre lethal nerf? They werent particularly hard, but at least required you to turn on a % of your brain to complete.

Man shut the hell up. People like you ruin games for everyone else. Maybe go back to Fortnite with your little ADHD 12 year old tween friends. Adults are over here having fun.

Woah there, brother, calm down he just asked if it was hard yet (phrasing) he isn't asking them to make the game harder.

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Shining_Darkness wrote:

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Razdek wrote:

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Tuffkid wrote:

And by that i mean, pre relentless nerf and pre lethal nerf? They werent particularly hard, but at least required you to turn on a % of your brain to complete.

Man shut the hell up. People like you ruin games for everyone else. Maybe go back to Fortnite with your little ADHD 12 year old tween friends. Adults are over here having fun.

Woah there, brother, calm down he just asked if it was hard yet (phrasing) he isn't asking them to make the game harder.

I'm with Razdek on this (not the fortnite comment)1, but Lethal is PLENTY difficult, I'd love to know the % of failure on Lethal runs. This type of topic always devolves into a dick measuring contest and should be locked. 

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Captainremo wrote:

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Shining_Darkness wrote:

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Razdek wrote:

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Tuffkid wrote:

And by that i mean, pre relentless nerf and pre lethal nerf? They werent particularly hard, but at least required you to turn on a % of your brain to complete.

Man shut the hell up. People like you ruin games for everyone else. Maybe go back to Fortnite with your little ADHD 12 year old tween friends. Adults are over here having fun.

Woah there, brother, calm down he just asked if it was hard yet (phrasing) he isn't asking them to make the game harder.

I'm with Razdek on this (not the fortnite comment)1, but Lethal is PLENTY difficult, I'd love to know the % of failure on Lethal runs. This type of topic always devolves into a dick measuring contest and should be locked. 

Agreed.

There should most definitely be a level that is brutally difficult.  Punishes players. Requires top people playing in their top form.  It's no different than a top tier raid in a MMO or NG+10 in Elden Ring.  It's completely optional and there for players that want the hardest challenge.

That being said the addition of that level should in no way affect the lower levels by bumping up all of their difficulty levels.  Those levels should be left alone as they were. Don't add a difficulty challenge level and at the same time ruin levels for the rest of the playerbase. 

I am with Blobie.  Something has obviously changed to make all levels harder.  Folks who I have played with confirm.  Seems like since the block bug the quality of the game has taken a nose dive.  I just got my last class to level 25 and am contemplating not playing anymore as it is not enjoyable to get your butt kicked at level 25 on Substantial.  I've been playing on Ruthless as that seems easier.   Yeah, yeah, I need to get good, but something has changed which makes getting good a lot harder and I don't have that amount of time as my life does not resolve around Space Marine 2.

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Captainremo wrote:

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Shining_Darkness wrote:

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Razdek wrote:

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Tuffkid wrote:

And by that i mean, pre relentless nerf and pre lethal nerf? They werent particularly hard, but at least required you to turn on a % of your brain to complete.

Man shut the hell up. People like you ruin games for everyone else. Maybe go back to Fortnite with your little ADHD 12 year old tween friends. Adults are over here having fun.

Woah there, brother, calm down he just asked if it was hard yet (phrasing) he isn't asking them to make the game harder.

I'm with Razdek on this (not the fortnite comment)1, but Lethal is PLENTY difficult, I'd love to know the % of failure on Lethal runs. This type of topic always devolves into a dick measuring contest and should be locked. 

In terms of failure percentages on Lethal, I was doing really well on that one ~ 100% every time! :-)

I was getting about 30 or 40 percent on substantial, but with the December bug-fest and nerfs ~ got seriously bored with decreasing progress and have been playing another game with unhindered fun and satisfying progress since. 

Will play again most likely one day.  

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Tuffkid wrote:

And by that i mean, pre relentless nerf and pre lethal nerf? They werent particularly hard, but at least required you to turn on a % of your brain to complete.

Sadly the answer is no.:( 

Real Ruthless, Real Lethal, you are missed! WHY HAVE YOU ABANDON US!!!<yells into the abyss>