I'm just gonna take it slow. Not gonna no-life some achivements for cosmetics I'm not interested in.
I'm gonna do as I always do and just join through Quickmatch and sooner or later I'll get the achivements in due time.

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Rexipher wrote:

I'm just gonna take it slow. Not gonna no-life some achivements for cosmetics I'm not interested in.
I'm gonna do as I always do and just join through Quickmatch and sooner or later I'll get the achivements in due time.

I've got 450 hours of played time already. I'm burnt on the content and they want me to go back and replay it even more even taking it slow? Dude there is a content drought in this game... Its an outright insult to long time players... If these 'achievements' had been in the game on release... as they should have been, I probably would have completed them already. To add cosmetics behind a new timesink for old content that should have been out on release is just more proof the devs are becoming increasingly incompetent and hold players in contempt. 

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Seriously... They don't recognise previous kills?
Sorry... I am not going back and killing the hive tyrant another 30 odd times or whatever the stupid number is to unlock a ridicuously small amount of dataslates for a cosmetic unlock that required hours and hours and hours and hours of gametime to unlock as the number of slates required are huge compared to the small amounts given out for an ordeal. I have already played 450 hours and am sick of the current content. Screw the devs with this clear time sink to try and keep people playing their old and tired content.

Just recognise my previous efforts and give me the cosmetics and give us some new content or this game is shelved. This patch adds nothing worth my time, if anything it takes my time and my fun for grindy, unfun bullshit. This whole patch is an insult to gamers that have already sunk hours into the game.

It sounds like you are just burnt out on the game.  If you planned on stopping already then no sense in worrying about cosmetics and stuff.  When/if you ever feel like picking it back up you can start back in on it.  I have over 500hrs in the game and lots I have done I see is not counted.  Happens a lot in games when they add stuff in like this. I don't plan on quitting the game and have just been having fun running operations. I've already gotten so many more ordeals done just by playing the game and having fun.  I'm not even going for specific ones just playing normally as I would no stressing over specifics.

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Razdek wrote:

Seriously... They don't recognise previous kills?
Sorry... I am not going back and killing the hive tyrant another 30 odd times or whatever the stupid number is to unlock a ridicuously small amount of dataslates for a cosmetic unlock that required hours and hours and hours and hours of gametime to unlock as the number of slates required are huge compared to the small amounts given out for an ordeal. I have already played 450 hours and am sick of the current content. Screw the devs with this clear time sink to try and keep people playing their old and tired content.

Just recognise my previous efforts and give me the cosmetics and give us some new content or this game is shelved. This patch adds nothing worth my time, if anything it takes my time and my fun for grindy, unfun bullshit. This whole patch is an insult to gamers that have already sunk hours into the game.

It sounds like you are just burnt out on the game.  If you planned on stopping already then no sense in worrying about cosmetics and stuff.  When/if you ever feel like picking it back up you can start back in on it.  I have over 500hrs in the game and lots I have done I see is not counted.  Happens a lot in games when they add stuff in like this. I don't plan on quitting the game and have just been having fun running operations. I've already gotten so many more ordeals done just by playing the game and having fun.  I'm not even going for specific ones just playing normally as I would no stressing over specifics.

I'm burnt out because there is nothing to do and no new content... I loved the game but they keep screwing it up with every patch and insult us with things like these ordeals. If they wanted us to hit all of these achievements it should have been done with the release so we were not wasting our time. Why should I go back and redo their limited amount of operations 10000000 times because they can't come up with new content to make the game interesting. There is a content drought and that is not my fault. 
Your argument is flawed... It is the developers fault I am burnt out, not mine. I loved the game enough to put in 450 hours... I would love to come back... but every time I do there is literally nothing for me in the game. They destroyed the one thing that was fun about the tactical with the GL... they want me to spend hours of my life grinding for these stupid dataslates... They don't even reward enough of them per achievement to make it worth my time. Its just a huge crappy timesink. That crap is old and tired and dead. WOW beat the crap out of timesinks and it just burns people out.  You need players to keep this game alive. "
They need to reverse this patch like they did 5 and make it so dataslates can be earned with rep and relics etc. Enough is enough. 

Sounds like a You problem OP. Maybe try finding other hobbies or games to play.

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Koetetsu wrote:

Sounds like a You problem OP. Maybe try finding other hobbies or games to play.

Thats a stupid philospophy by moronic idiots who don't understand that if you want the game to succeed you need an ongoing playerbase. You didn't really think through your dumb comment first did you?  I mean, I had left before this patch and only came back hoping it had imporved the content drought... I aldready 450 hours. I can move onto another game if this has nothing to offer, which it doesn't... But good luck over time finding people to play with as more people leave as you advise them to. Besides, I wouldn't even run with douchbags like you in a squad. I have everything I need that I don't need to complete that run so desperately I would put up with douchbags. You are going to find out very quickly that nobody will be here for you to play with. Good luck with that.

The "if you don't like (x) feature in game, then just stop playing the game entirely" crowd are some of the most insufferable people in gaming. Especially when they say stuff like that on feedback forums. It's like the devs literally set up these forums SPECIFICALLY  for feedback and there is always that one guys who has to throw in some stupid "jUsT dOnT pLaY the gAmE tHeN".

The codex does not approve of those statements.

I'm with you. I'm extremely confused as to why I have to go through and kill "x amount of enemies" when I've already done that 100x over. Hopefully that gets changed. I wouldn't mind if it was with a new weapon/class but I already have all classes maxed and 90% of the weapons

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Koetetsu wrote:

Sounds like a You problem OP. Maybe try finding other hobbies or games to play.

Thats a stupid philospophy by moronic idiots who don't understand that if you want the game to succeed you need an ongoing playerbase. You didn't really think through your dumb comment first did you?  I mean, I had left before this patch and only came back hoping it had imporved the content drought... I aldready 450 hours. I can move onto another game if this has nothing to offer, which it doesn't... But good luck over time finding people to play with as more people leave as you advise them to. Besides, I wouldn't even run with douchbags like you in a squad. I have everything I need that I don't need to complete that run so desperately I would put up with douchbags. You are going to find out very quickly that nobody will be here for you to play with. Good luck with that.

The "if you don't like (x) feature in game, then just stop playing the game entirely" crowd are some of the most insufferable people in gaming. Especially when they say stuff like that on feedback forums. It's like the devs literally set up these forums SPECIFICALLY  for feedback and there is always that one guys who has to throw in some stupid "jUsT dOnT pLaY the gAmE tHeN".

The codex does not approve of those statements.

I'm with you. I'm extremely confused as to why I have to go through and kill "x amount of enemies" when I've already done that 100x over. Hopefully that gets changed. I wouldn't mind if it was with a new weapon/class but I already have all classes maxed and 90% of the weapons

100%... the just don't play the game people are idiots and they need to be called out for it.

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I'm burnt out because there is nothing to do and no new content... I loved the game but they keep screwing it up with every patch and insult us with things like these ordeals. If they wanted us to hit all of these achievements it should have been done with the release so we were not wasting our time. Why should I go back and redo their limited amount of operations 10000000 times because they can't come up with new content to make the game interesting. There is a content drought and that is not my fault. 
Your argument is flawed... It is the developers fault I am burnt out, not mine. I loved the game enough to put in 450 hours... I would love to come back... but every time I do there is literally nothing for me in the game. They destroyed the one thing that was fun about the tactical with the GL... they want me to spend hours of my life grinding for these stupid dataslates... They don't even reward enough of them per achievement to make it worth my time. Its just a huge crappy timesink. That crap is old and tired and dead. WOW beat the crap out of timesinks and it just burns people out.  You need players to keep this game alive. "
They need to reverse this patch like they did 5 and make it so dataslates can be earned with rep and relics etc. Enough is enough. 

Lots and lots of games add achievements and things to earn that were not in the game when it launched.  Happens all the time.  If you don't have the urge to go back and earn them you shouldn't. Don't force yourself to do something you really don't want to do.  Some people wanted things to grind for(saw posts all the time here and on Steam about people requesting it) so I am sure those people are happy.

I'm also not sure how you are blaming the devs for you burning yourself out by playing too much.

I think my original advice still stands maybe just put it down for a while.  The game seems to be stressing you out pretty badly from all your posts you have done and the tone of them.

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Being pissed off at shitty devs who keep screwing things up in a game that I clearly enjoyed previously... that isn't stressed. I paid just as much money as everyone else... And no... that is complete BS about the achievements. They shouldn't be backtracking achievements in a game that has severe content drought and people have already played their previous content to death. Its poor design and it should have been there on release if that was their intent. They clearly didn't have the resources to do this at release so they should have kept it out of the game. we are now being punished because they didn't have the skills to do it on release. Bad design should never be justified. I have done most of the these stupid achievements and I now have to go back and do them all over again because they didn't track them? Complete and utter gargabe. Im pissed off because my time and effort has absolutely been wasted and should be recogninsed. 

Just let us buy the data slates. Its really that simple. I am not going to justify poor design and shitty decisions from the devs that punish certain players who should be rewarded for their time and effort and more importantly, loyalty... This just feels like an utter slap in the face. Its personal. Its a massive FU from the devs.

Just letting you know the reality of the situation.  Lots of games do that.  I understand you're not a fan of it, but it happens all the time in many games for many systems. It's not a personal attack from the devs against you.

the objectives of these new gamification mechanics are to keep people playing. of course they're not going to retroactively unlock for players. 

I've got close to 300 hours at the moment, and I'm just trying to get what I like from it and just leave it after that. Got no reason to grind for something I don't want.

Yet again going to my comment I left somewhere here that these features should have been in the game from the start.

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Imperialknight wrote:

the objectives of these new gamification mechanics are to keep people playing. of course they're not going to retroactively unlock for players. 

They are not going to keep people playing. Developers and players who think this will keep people playing are stupid. As I have said time and time again is that it just highlights the sever content drought this game suffers from. If they don't fix this I'll definitely stop playing... And I am sure it won't bother many, but I won't be buying a space marines 3 and I won't be buying any further DLC. Their cash cow will eventually dry up as enough people will stop playing. You just have to go see how many negative reviews are on steam every time a new major patch comes out that enough people are disassisfied. They keep getting it wrong and it shows. And I know I am right, because they had to do a comlpete 180 after patch 5.  
I already spent the last month or so not playing the game. I came back hoping this patch would reinvigorate the game for me, instead it just solidified the fact that there is a content drought and the devs take their players for suckers. If you think this is a good patch you're just another sucker. If its not this patch for you it will be one down the track... but by then they will be well and truely in the habit of screwing people over, and you will complain and they will ignore you, because you let it slide this time and made excuses for poor behaviour.

I concur with this. Not liking this patch at all. Do not get me wrong, I like having new content but it seems to me they are going from extreme to extreme. Also, in the Ops I have never seen so many spore mines before and most of the times they nearly wiped us out by surprise, sometimes even succeeding.

I agree i shouldn't have to do everything again just for the weakest cosmetics genuinely this is the only game I been playing or am excited to play and the lack of cosmetic content is frustrating not only that but the ordeal system is bugged out and not even tracking the stuff I'm deliberately completing . If there isn't new content soon and not these weak class specific champion packs this game will die the gameplay itself has gotten pretty repetitive and stale and the amount of work needed for the rewards added is genuinely disrespectful. 

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Imperialknight wrote:

the objectives of these new gamification mechanics are to keep people playing. of course they're not going to retroactively unlock for players. 

They are not going to keep people playing. Developers and players who think this will keep people playing are stupid. As I have said time and time again is that it just highlights the sever content drought this game suffers from. If they don't fix this I'll definitely stop playing... And I am sure it won't bother many, but I won't be buying a space marines 3 and I won't be buying any further DLC. Their cash cow will eventually dry up as enough people will stop playing. You just have to go see how many negative reviews are on steam every time a new major patch comes out that enough people are disassisfied. They keep getting it wrong and it shows. And I know I am right, because they had to do a comlpete 180 after patch 5.  
I already spent the last month or so not playing the game. I came back hoping this patch would reinvigorate the game for me, instead it just solidified the fact that there is a content drought and the devs take their players for suckers. If you think this is a good patch you're just another sucker. If its not this patch for you it will be one down the track... but by then they will be well and truely in the habit of screwing people over, and you will complain and they will ignore you, because you let it slide this time and made excuses for poor behaviour.

I concur with this. Not liking this patch at all. Do not get me wrong, I like having new content but it seems to me they are going from extreme to extreme. Also, in the Ops I have never seen so many spore mines before and most of the times they nearly wiped us out by surprise, sometimes even succeeding.

They have now addressed this. They claim it is because when spore mines are spawned the spawn duration (meaning after the director decides to spawn a unit type how long does it spawn that unit type for to create a sufficiently dense horde) is too long. They claim to have not touched spore mine frequency and have identified this as the likely culprit. Why they are not going to hotfix it I have no idea.