Hello Brothers,

Just for your info - this page has become again the official feedback zone for this game.

Below is the post from Sister Hylia placed on Discord 2 days ago.

Yea I will believe this when I see dev post here in some threads other than updates notes. 

Agreed. Communication has been lackluster to say at least.

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Aurellian wrote:

To think they were considering other platforms more than their official website says it all. 

And also , that " feedback with most upvotes will be seen by the devs" thing kinda sucks . Imagine some player found out important and objective fallacy into whatever key aspect of the game but no one upvotes or care about it, but instead the most upvoted is " the fur on my shoulder doesnt move correctly" because it has more upvotes . Thats so stupid in my opinion.. devs should not decide only by the majority , but also look into factual and important feedback aswell , even if that feedback doesnt get much upvotes. This is why we had a disaster update after another in my opinion and it will get worse and worse if they dont change direction and philosophy 

I agree with you. Also it is even more stupid than that. It's not even majority. I have 50k points. You have less than 2k. So if there is post and I upvote it, it will get answer from developers even if 20 other users with 2k points average upvote other post. 

If I make post: is it gay to hold hands with your friend but longer than 2 seconds? and you make post about some serious stuff going in the game, by logic in this screenshot above, I will get answer, because my post has 50k points and your has 2. 

Really not best idea.

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Naus_ wrote:

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Aurellian wrote:

To think they were considering other platforms more than their official website says it all. 

And also , that " feedback with most upvotes will be seen by the devs" thing kinda sucks . Imagine some player found out important and objective fallacy into whatever key aspect of the game but no one upvotes or care about it, but instead the most upvoted is " the fur on my shoulder doesnt move correctly" because it has more upvotes . Thats so stupid in my opinion.. devs should not decide only by the majority , but also look into factual and important feedback aswell , even if that feedback doesnt get much upvotes. This is why we had a disaster update after another in my opinion and it will get worse and worse if they dont change direction and philosophy 

I agree with you. Also it is even more stupid than that. It's not even majority. I have 50k points. You have less than 2k. So if there is post and I upvote it, it will get answer from developers even if 20 other users with 2k points average upvote other post. 

If I make post: is it gay to hold hands with your friend but longer than 2 seconds? and you make post about some serious stuff going in the game, by logic in this screenshot above, I will get answer, because my post has 50k points and your has 2. 

Really not best idea.

Definetly agree , i hope they will change that approach 

game crashing/disconnecting all the time since this patch.....

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Aurellian wrote:

To think they were considering other platforms more than their official website says it all. 

And also , that " feedback with most upvotes will be seen by the devs" thing kinda sucks . Imagine some player found out important and objective fallacy into whatever key aspect of the game but no one upvotes or care about it, but instead what gets the dev's attention is" the fur on my shoulder doesnt move correctly" just because it has more upvotes . Thats so stupid in my opinion.. devs should not decide only by the majority , but also look into factual and important feedback aswell , even if that feedback doesnt get much upvotes. This is why we had a disaster update after another in my opinion and it will get worse and worse if they dont change direction and philosophy 

Those voting systems are very easy to rig. I agree with you on this and hope they stay true to their core vision while implementing some form of quality control over popularity.

But I also believe that even if they only considered the most popular ideas, that alone wouldn’t be the deciding factor for implementation. Other factors, such as priority, complexity, and impact, would also come into play. There are better solutions though.

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Naus_ wrote:

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Aurellian wrote:

To think they were considering other platforms more than their official website says it all. 

And also , that " feedback with most upvotes will be seen by the devs" thing kinda sucks . Imagine some player found out important and objective fallacy into whatever key aspect of the game but no one upvotes or care about it, but instead the most upvoted is " the fur on my shoulder doesnt move correctly" because it has more upvotes . Thats so stupid in my opinion.. devs should not decide only by the majority , but also look into factual and important feedback aswell , even if that feedback doesnt get much upvotes. This is why we had a disaster update after another in my opinion and it will get worse and worse if they dont change direction and philosophy 

I agree with you. Also it is even more stupid than that. It's not even majority. I have 50k points. You have less than 2k. So if there is post and I upvote it, it will get answer from developers even if 20 other users with 2k points average upvote other post. 

If I make post: is it gay to hold hands with your friend but longer than 2 seconds? and you make post about some serious stuff going in the game, by logic in this screenshot above, I will get answer, because my post has 50k points and your has 2. 

Really not best idea.

It should be 'One man, one vote.' Otherwise, all console players and those who don't hunt achievements are at a disadvantage.

Although the developers have said that they will only respond to the feedback with the highest rating, I hope that they are still reading the other feedback even if they don't respond to it.​

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Aurellian wrote:

To think they were considering other platforms more than their official website says it all. 

And also , that " feedback with most upvotes will be seen by the devs" thing kinda sucks . Imagine some player found out important and objective fallacy into whatever key aspect of the game but no one upvotes or care about it, but instead what gets the dev's attention is" the fur on my shoulder doesnt move correctly" just because it has more upvotes . Thats so stupid in my opinion.. devs should not decide only by the majority , but also look into factual and important feedback aswell , even if that feedback doesnt get much upvotes. This is why we had a disaster update after another in my opinion and it will get worse and worse if they dont change direction and philosophy 

Democracy sucks. Imagine there are 2 posts suggesting "we need female space marine" and the other one is "Buff Bolters headshot multiplier" like the second post makes sense because Bolters are weak but the first post has more upvotes.

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Naus_ wrote:

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Aurellian wrote:

To think they were considering other platforms more than their official website says it all. 

And also , that " feedback with most upvotes will be seen by the devs" thing kinda sucks . Imagine some player found out important and objective fallacy into whatever key aspect of the game but no one upvotes or care about it, but instead the most upvoted is " the fur on my shoulder doesnt move correctly" because it has more upvotes . Thats so stupid in my opinion.. devs should not decide only by the majority , but also look into factual and important feedback aswell , even if that feedback doesnt get much upvotes. This is why we had a disaster update after another in my opinion and it will get worse and worse if they dont change direction and philosophy 

I agree with you. Also it is even more stupid than that. It's not even majority. I have 50k points. You have less than 2k. So if there is post and I upvote it, it will get answer from developers even if 20 other users with 2k points average upvote other post. 

If I make post: is it gay to hold hands with your friend but longer than 2 seconds? and you make post about some serious stuff going in the game, by logic in this screenshot above, I will get answer, because my post has 50k points and your has 2. 

Really not best idea.

Agreed brother, heck I forget the user's name but there is a guy with nearly 100k and I have seen some with over that. The disparity between people who have played and fully completed multiple Focus games and those that only really have SM2 hence why they are on the SM2 forums is disheartening. I mean surely the fact someone has played other focus games should not influence the weight of a post/upvote on a specific game's forum pages? At least something like Boltgun is tangentially relevant but other things really are not.

Using a discord server for feedback in the first place seems a bit unprofessional, so I guess it's a good thing to consolidate it all here.

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Mainfoldium wrote:

Using a discord server for feedback in the first place seems a bit unprofessional, so I guess it's a good thing to consolidate it all here.

​Lol considering that they hid all sections with reviews and discussions from the official discord, it seems they just don’t want to hear opinions different from theirs

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nikof135 wrote:

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Mainfoldium wrote:

Using a discord server for feedback in the first place seems a bit unprofessional, so I guess it's a good thing to consolidate it all here.

​Lol considering that they hid all sections with reviews and discussions from the official discord, it seems they just don’t want to hear opinions different from theirs

I think they did that so they can push more people to platform that is build around ranks that you climb in by getting more points that you can primarly obtain by maxing out their games which you need to buy in the first place. This is the real reason. 

Even if only 5% get into this trap it's still money they wouldn't get if they just stayed on Discord. 

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Naus_ wrote:

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nikof135 wrote:

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Mainfoldium wrote:

Using a discord server for feedback in the first place seems a bit unprofessional, so I guess it's a good thing to consolidate it all here.

​Lol considering that they hid all sections with reviews and discussions from the official discord, it seems they just don’t want to hear opinions different from theirs

I think they did that so they can push more people to platform that is build around ranks that you climb in by getting more points that you can primarly obtain by maxing out their games which you need to buy in the first place. This is the real reason. 

Even if only 5% get into this trap it's still money they wouldn't get if they just stayed on Discord. 

I don't really care for the reason, as long as they start actually posting stuff here on their official forums rather than on a discord. Using discord as the only real source of community interaction (from the CMs) is quite unprofessional.

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Shining_Darkness wrote:

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Naus_ wrote:

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nikof135 wrote:

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Mainfoldium wrote:

Using a discord server for feedback in the first place seems a bit unprofessional, so I guess it's a good thing to consolidate it all here.

​Lol considering that they hid all sections with reviews and discussions from the official discord, it seems they just don’t want to hear opinions different from theirs

I think they did that so they can push more people to platform that is build around ranks that you climb in by getting more points that you can primarly obtain by maxing out their games which you need to buy in the first place. This is the real reason. 

Even if only 5% get into this trap it's still money they wouldn't get if they just stayed on Discord. 

I don't really care for the reason, as long as they start actually posting stuff here on their official forums rather than on a discord. Using discord as the only real source of community interaction (from the CMs) is quite unprofessional.

​This would make sense if the platform was alive, and this is like a forum in 2025, lol good luck. Secondly, developers never share with us specific examples of what they want to change because feedback is not important to them. Generally lack of communication, except for brother Nephilim who writes that we handed over your idea to the developers, and none of these ideas have been implemented, and simple things take months (hello slider fov, Hello lens colors) And in general, the technical condition of the game is much worse than it was at release, not to mention the server part, I especially love the brilliant idea that you need to always be online, otherwise progress is not counted . Well, the process of adding content is very slow, and again we were told that they would change the weapon perks, but again there are no examples, they will simply release updates and again receive negative feedback on steam due to nerfs and insufficient buffs, all of this can be avoided simply by giving players feedback and communicating with them at least somewhere, but it seems that since patch 4.0 they are not learning anything

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Freddy7623 wrote:

Hello Brothers,

Just for your info - this page has become again the official feedback zone for this game.

Below is the post from Sister Hylia placed on Discord 2 days ago.

Thanks for relaying it Brother. As explained, this is a means for us to easily centralize and categorize players' feedback. We're still working on the forum to make it more efficient and user-friendly.