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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 5:50:14 AM

Why where the colors changed?


Cream colors are plain white.

Black colors are too glossy

Blood Raven color looks orange.

And space shark grey its grey rather the previous bluish one?


Why was this modified? it was great, it was a complete unnecesary change. The red color preset for the blood ravens in sm2 is evil sunz scarlett, let me show you how the colors changed after the patch.


HERE are the examples where you can notice the change of the red tone looking scarlet and the cream color looking creamy.

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And here below is after the patch. Notice the change in red and the cream colors. It looks more orangy and the cream looks plain white.

20241027204350_1.jpgI would love to have the old colors back to be honest or at least give me the scarlet back as a new color "blood ravens scarlet/red" Either way the cream and matte black seriously neet to return. Here is an example of how the black now looks too glossy. Note that the right side kneepad was given eshin grey to look more like how it used to be pre patch.

Captura de pantalla 2024-10-27 210209.png

Solutions:

1- Change colors to how they where.

2- Make the old colors available as new ones here are some examples:

Blood Ravens scarlet

Chaos Black

Bleached bone.


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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 6:16:59 AM

They've been "fixing" colors with each patch and breaking as much as they correct. 4.0 last week did what you describe, and the only consmetic fixes for 4.1 was making Lethal unlocks available if their conditions were met. I was hoping they'd have color fixes with 4.1. Alas...


Having unlocked all cosmetics myself, and a long-time Blood Raven player, I recommend using Korne Red for now and sticking with Ushabi Bone cause it's still the closest in lieu of any other shade of cream/light-tan. 

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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 8:38:08 AM

Aramus418 wrote:

They've been "fixing" colors with each patch and breaking as much as they correct. 4.0 last week did what you describe, and the only consmetic fixes for 4.1 was making Lethal unlocks available if their conditions were met. I was hoping they'd have color fixes with 4.1. Alas...


Having unlocked all cosmetics myself, and a long-time Blood Raven player, I recommend using Korne Red for now and sticking with Ushabi Bone cause it's still the closest in lieu of any other shade of cream/light-tan. 

But why? why did they had to change it? some decals even got screwed up and they reduced the costumization such as the decal on the right kneepad of my character here. Here it also shows how the red changed but due to the lighting its not super noticable but you can see it.

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2183900_55.jpgWe bascially went from scarlet to orange. I understand that in some GW publications the BR have been kind of orangy red  "Red + a bit of brown"but scarlet is more consistent IMO.

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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 9:01:32 AM

Pitalla wrote:

Aramus418 wrote:

They've been "fixing" colors with each patch and breaking as much as they correct. 4.0 last week did what you describe, and the only consmetic fixes for 4.1 was making Lethal unlocks available if their conditions were met. I was hoping they'd have color fixes with 4.1. Alas...


Having unlocked all cosmetics myself, and a long-time Blood Raven player, I recommend using Korne Red for now and sticking with Ushabi Bone cause it's still the closest in lieu of any other shade of cream/light-tan. 

But why? why did they had to change it? some decals even got screwed up and they reduced the costumization such as the decal on the right kneepad of my character here. Here it also shows how the red changed but due to the lighting its not super noticable but you can see it.

2183900_35.jpg

2183900_55.jpgWe bascially went from scarlet to orange. I understand that in some GW publications the BR have been kind of orangy red  "Red + a bit of brown"but scarlet is more consistent IMO.

I think you need a new monitor. That is not orange at all and i have an eizo monitor calibrated for graphic editing. My colors are presented accuretly.

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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 9:50:23 AM

Pitalla wrote:

Why where the colors changed? Now they are all off and wierd.


Cream colors are plain white.

Black colors are too glossy

Blood Raven color looks white

And space shark grey its grey rather the previous bluish one?


Why was this modified? it was great, it was a complete unnecesary change unlike you know, color lenses and adding more actual stuff. It just made me not want to play the game anymore. Could we have an actual answer to this?

Lol the official GW paint for blood ravens are Khorne Red... So this post make nosense 😅

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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 8:06:12 PM

Malganys wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Why where the colors changed? Now they are all off and wierd.


Cream colors are plain white.

Black colors are too glossy

Blood Raven color looks white

And space shark grey its grey rather the previous bluish one?


Why was this modified? it was great, it was a complete unnecesary change unlike you know, color lenses and adding more actual stuff. It just made me not want to play the game anymore. Could we have an actual answer to this?

Lol the official GW paint for blood ravens are Khorne Red... So this post make nosense 😅

Khorne red is not orange at all. But in the game they are orange now. Please try to make sense.

As for the “official” color what would that be? The one from WH videos? Or the one painted by eavy metal that requires a more advanced approach and understanding of painting?

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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 8:14:14 PM

a_user wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Aramus418 wrote:

They've been "fixing" colors with each patch and breaking as much as they correct. 4.0 last week did what you describe, and the only consmetic fixes for 4.1 was making Lethal unlocks available if their conditions were met. I was hoping they'd have color fixes with 4.1. Alas...


Having unlocked all cosmetics myself, and a long-time Blood Raven player, I recommend using Korne Red for now and sticking with Ushabi Bone cause it's still the closest in lieu of any other shade of cream/light-tan. 

But why? why did they had to change it? some decals even got screwed up and they reduced the costumization such as the decal on the right kneepad of my character here. Here it also shows how the red changed but due to the lighting its not super noticable but you can see it.

2183900_35.jpg

2183900_55.jpgWe bascially went from scarlet to orange. I understand that in some GW publications the BR have been kind of orangy red  "Red + a bit of brown"but scarlet is more consistent IMO.

I think you need a new monitor. That is not orange at all and i have an eizo monitor calibrated for graphic editing. My colors are presented accuretly.

both are from the same monitor after the patch, this isnt even for debate. The colors where changed.

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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 8:14:42 PM

Pitalla wrote:

Malganys wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Why where the colors changed? Now they are all off and wierd.


Cream colors are plain white.

Black colors are too glossy

Blood Raven color looks white

And space shark grey its grey rather the previous bluish one?


Why was this modified? it was great, it was a complete unnecesary change unlike you know, color lenses and adding more actual stuff. It just made me not want to play the game anymore. Could we have an actual answer to this?

Lol the official GW paint for blood ravens are Khorne Red... So this post make nosense 😅

Khorne red is not orange at all. But in the game they are orange now. Please try to make sense.

No, just have it on my screen Khorne red is a very redish red! A bit dark even. Not even remotely orange. Fix your monitor or your eyes or what ever.

Actually from all the red's its the most red one!

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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 8:17:26 PM

a_user wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Malganys wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Why where the colors changed? Now they are all off and wierd.


Cream colors are plain white.

Black colors are too glossy

Blood Raven color looks white

And space shark grey its grey rather the previous bluish one?


Why was this modified? it was great, it was a complete unnecesary change unlike you know, color lenses and adding more actual stuff. It just made me not want to play the game anymore. Could we have an actual answer to this?

Lol the official GW paint for blood ravens are Khorne Red... So this post make nosense 😅

Khorne red is not orange at all. But in the game they are orange now. Please try to make sense.

No, just have it on my screen Khorne red is a very redish red! A bit dark even. Not even remotely orange. Fix your monitor or your eyes or what ever.

Actually from all the red's its the most red one!

I think you are the one that needs to get glasses if you cant find the difference. This is not for debate it is a fact that the colors where changed. And if you have to insult just to deflect that then it makes your argument redundant.

I have pictures previous to patch and after patch, and I am not the only one upset about this.

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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 8:22:25 PM

Pitalla wrote:

a_user wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Malganys wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Why where the colors changed? Now they are all off and wierd.


Cream colors are plain white.

Black colors are too glossy

Blood Raven color looks white

And space shark grey its grey rather the previous bluish one?


Why was this modified? it was great, it was a complete unnecesary change unlike you know, color lenses and adding more actual stuff. It just made me not want to play the game anymore. Could we have an actual answer to this?

Lol the official GW paint for blood ravens are Khorne Red... So this post make nosense 😅

Khorne red is not orange at all. But in the game they are orange now. Please try to make sense.

No, just have it on my screen Khorne red is a very redish red! A bit dark even. Not even remotely orange. Fix your monitor or your eyes or what ever.

Actually from all the red's its the most red one!

I think you are the one that needs to get glasses if you cant find the difference. This is not for debate it is a fact that the colors where changed. And if you have to insult just to deflect that then it makes your argument redundant.

I have pictures previous to patch and after patch, and I am not the only one upset about this.

I have an eizo calibrated monitor for graphics editing. Khorne red is the most reddish colur in sm2 customization! THAT is the fact. Etiher soemthng is broken with your graphics card or your monitor sucks.

It is not orange at all!

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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 8:26:39 PM

a_user wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

a_user wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Malganys wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Why where the colors changed? Now they are all off and wierd.


Cream colors are plain white.

Black colors are too glossy

Blood Raven color looks white

And space shark grey its grey rather the previous bluish one?


Why was this modified? it was great, it was a complete unnecesary change unlike you know, color lenses and adding more actual stuff. It just made me not want to play the game anymore. Could we have an actual answer to this?

Lol the official GW paint for blood ravens are Khorne Red... So this post make nosense 😅

Khorne red is not orange at all. But in the game they are orange now. Please try to make sense.

No, just have it on my screen Khorne red is a very redish red! A bit dark even. Not even remotely orange. Fix your monitor or your eyes or what ever.

Actually from all the red's its the most red one!

I think you are the one that needs to get glasses if you cant find the difference. This is not for debate it is a fact that the colors where changed. And if you have to insult just to deflect that then it makes your argument redundant.

I have pictures previous to patch and after patch, and I am not the only one upset about this.

I have an eizo calibrated monitor for graphics editing. Khorne red is the most reddish colur in sm2 customization! THAT is the fact. Etiher soemthng is broken with your graphics card or your monitor sucks.

It is not orange at all!

Do you have photage to compare it to the old color??

I will post it later.

Then you also have problem with the cream color becoming white, and black glossy.

My card is new in fact, like I said this changes happened with the new update.

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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 8:32:59 PM

Pitalla wrote:

a_user wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

a_user wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Malganys wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Why where the colors changed? Now they are all off and wierd.


Cream colors are plain white.

Black colors are too glossy

Blood Raven color looks white

And space shark grey its grey rather the previous bluish one?


Why was this modified? it was great, it was a complete unnecesary change unlike you know, color lenses and adding more actual stuff. It just made me not want to play the game anymore. Could we have an actual answer to this?

Lol the official GW paint for blood ravens are Khorne Red... So this post make nosense 😅

Khorne red is not orange at all. But in the game they are orange now. Please try to make sense.

No, just have it on my screen Khorne red is a very redish red! A bit dark even. Not even remotely orange. Fix your monitor or your eyes or what ever.

Actually from all the red's its the most red one!

I think you are the one that needs to get glasses if you cant find the difference. This is not for debate it is a fact that the colors where changed. And if you have to insult just to deflect that then it makes your argument redundant.

I have pictures previous to patch and after patch, and I am not the only one upset about this.

I have an eizo calibrated monitor for graphics editing. Khorne red is the most reddish colur in sm2 customization! THAT is the fact. Etiher soemthng is broken with your graphics card or your monitor sucks.

It is not orange at all!

Do you have photage to compare it to the old color??

I will post it later.

Then you also have problem with the cream color becoming white, and black glossy.

My card is new in fact, like I said this changes happened with the new update.

​I changed the color on the left leg (right side) on the bottom to Khorne red. The other reds are evil sunz scarlet. If it is a driver problem in 3d you should see the color from my picture correctly. If it is general  problem with your gpu or monitor it wont help :D


Cream is also cream and not white. And i had no changes of colors during the updates at least not to those i used.


Khore_red.jpg

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a month ago
Oct 27, 2024, 9:57:10 PM


Pitalla wrote:
Why was this modified?

they now have enough data about popular colours to price them.  The colours will be back, but as part of a paid DLC.

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a month ago
Oct 28, 2024, 1:48:28 AM

a_user wrote:


​I changed the color on the left leg (right side) on the bottom to Khorne red. The other reds are evil sunz scarlet. If it is a driver problem in 3d you should see the color from my picture correctly. If it is general  problem with your gpu or monitor it wont help :D


Cream is also cream and not white. And i had no changes of colors during the updates at least not to those i used.


Khore_red.jpg



I am not sure if you are trolling /gaslighting me or if you are  literally refusing to read.


I showed you a picture comparison with a clear difference.

Previous to patch was a more scarlet color, now its more orangy. "Yes they did change the colors

Creams are now too white. 

Blacks are glossy rather than mate.


Meanwhile your argument is “your screen or your graphic card is wrong” what I find funny is that you cannot even provide evidence pre patch like I did. 


You are arguing about the color khorne red. When did I mention color red khorne was orange? I said that the colors for the blood ravens where changed, the red used to be more scarlet and its now more orangy. In the game the blood raven standard color is evil sunz scarlet btw.


Again, Base Color for blood ravens red in the game is Evil sunz scarlet. Or at least is listed in it. Please do research before throwing arguments.

















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a month ago
Oct 28, 2024, 3:03:18 AM

Malganys wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Why where the colors changed? Now they are all off and wierd.


Cream colors are plain white.

Black colors are too glossy

Blood Raven color looks white

And space shark grey its grey rather the previous bluish one?


Why was this modified? it was great, it was a complete unnecesary change unlike you know, color lenses and adding more actual stuff. It just made me not want to play the game anymore. Could we have an actual answer to this?

Lol the official GW paint for blood ravens are Khorne Red... So this post make nosense 😅

The official BR color in SM 2 is evil sunz scarlet, not Khorne red. This color used to be mroe scarlet rather than orange, perhaps you should understand and read what the thread is about rather than calling it nonesense?


Here is an example for the people trying to gaslight me.


PRE PATCH RED "looks scarlett and cream looks like cream

20241009143034_1.jpg"Post patch"

Looks like white stone and red looks more orangy.

20241027204350_1.jpg


As for black, this is glossy.

Captura de pantalla 2024-10-27 210209.png

I am going to put these on the main post, but at this rate they may as well give us the old color back as "Blood Ravens scarlet" and bleached bone and chaos black"that is ofc if the devs dont want to change the colors.

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a month ago
Oct 28, 2024, 1:03:40 PM

Pitalla wrote:

a_user wrote:


​I changed the color on the left leg (right side) on the bottom to Khorne red. The other reds are evil sunz scarlet. If it is a driver problem in 3d you should see the color from my picture correctly. If it is general  problem with your gpu or monitor it wont help :D


Cream is also cream and not white. And i had no changes of colors during the updates at least not to those i used.


Khore_red.jpg



I am not sure if you are trolling /gaslighting me or if you are  literally refusing to read.


I showed you a picture comparison with a clear difference.

revious to patch was a more scarlet color, now its more orangy. "Yes they did change the colors

Creams are now too white. 

Blacks are glossy rather than mate.


Meanwhile your argument is “your screen or your graphic card is wrong” what I find funny is that you cannot even provide evidence pre patch like I did. 


You are arguing about the color khorne red. When did I mention color red khorne was orange? I said that the colors for the blood ravens where changed, the red used to be more scarlet and its now more orangy. In the game the blood ravenms standard color is evil sunz scarlet btw.


Again, Base Color for blood ravens red in the game is Evil sunz scarlet. Or at least is listed in it. Please do research before throwing arguments.

















Again, i answered to your post and the color you showed after the patch is not orange. It changes slightly to previous one at least as shown on your pictures.


I showed you that color on my picture and it is not AT all like yours it is a really deep red. More red-ish is not possible. The fact that you were able to take a screenshot of that color and it differes from mine means something is odd with your gpu's rendering as this cannot be the monitor. But it cannot be the game as well otherwise i would have also a changed color.


It must be somthing either with your driver, or some strange effect of the game engine with your card and driver.


So no, i am not trolling. I am trying to explain you a) that what you percieved as orange is not orange at all and b) i even do not have the colors you screenshotted.

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a month ago
Oct 28, 2024, 2:13:16 PM
Despite them breaking some colors they did fix the knee decals such that the red doesn't mix with the black. Now you can equip a deathwatch stripe decal and make it all black and now you have an all black kneecap. Also, would anyone be able to direct me to a heraldry guide for primaris blood ravens? The ones I could find with google aren't good and the colors seem to be skewed. I wanted to cosplay as Primaris Ancient Tarkus.

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a month ago
Oct 28, 2024, 5:45:39 PM

Koetetsu wrote:
Despite them breaking some colors they did fix the knee decals such that the red doesn't mix with the black. Now you can equip a deathwatch stripe decal and make it all black and now you have an all black kneecap. Also, would anyone be able to direct me to a heraldry guide for primaris blood ravens? The ones I could find with google aren't good and the colors seem to be skewed. I wanted to cosplay as Primaris Ancient Tarkus.

There's not really any official guide for Blood Ravens as extensive as any examples you'd find for most of the other popular Chapters. You mostly just need to research how they've been depicted in DoW (I, II, & III), White Dwarf Articles, and what other hobbiests have done then decide what you like. The Codex Astartes even says that Marines should mix up rank/squad/company heraldry from time to time, and BR is a fleet-based chapter with far-flung elements so it's easy to do what you like and just say "my Captain prescribed this system for his company." 


For example, in the White Dward article from 2019 (or so), primaris BRs were depicted with sergeants having Bone helms, gold helm for Captains, and black helm with bone faceplates for Lt.s and Ancients. In DOW 1, Captains had gold torsos and everyone had the same red helmet, even 1st company terminators. In DoW II, gold torsos for Captains were gone, but when the 1st Company made it's appearance in the Chaos Rising expansion all veterans have since been depicted with bone helms, including terminators (except the player's squads in terminator armor, as they are 4th Company using recovered wargear). Through all DoWs, sergeants were typically depicted as the one guy without a helm in their squad, but had a red helm if they did.


When making my own squads back in 5th Ed., sergeants had the same helm color as their squad, but with a gold skull stud. Each squad also has one corporal with a steel ("Boltgun metal"/"Leadbelcher") skull stud who leads the other combat squad if the unit is divided. Vets got bone helms, could have bone or silver breastplate device, but kept black trim on pauldrons. Captain and command squad got gold pauldron trim and gold breastplate devices.


Today, as I'm considering getting back in, I'm playing with the idea of putting stipes on sergeants. OP here with the black stripe was one idea I liked, but I'm personally leaning towards red w/ bone stripe and the same reversed for vet. sgt., while Lt.s would have the thinner black stripe on top of whatever their company's sgt.s have.

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a month ago
Oct 28, 2024, 7:02:55 PM

a_user wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

a_user wrote:


​I changed the color on the left leg (right side) on the bottom to Khorne red. The other reds are evil sunz scarlet. If it is a driver problem in 3d you should see the color from my picture correctly. If it is general  problem with your gpu or monitor it wont help :D


Cream is also cream and not white. And i had no changes of colors during the updates at least not to those i used.


Khore_red.jpg



I am not sure if you are trolling /gaslighting me or if you are  literally refusing to read.


I showed you a picture comparison with a clear difference.

revious to patch was a more scarlet color, now its more orangy. "Yes they did change the colors

Creams are now too white. 

Blacks are glossy rather than mate.


Meanwhile your argument is “your screen or your graphic card is wrong” what I find funny is that you cannot even provide evidence pre patch like I did. 


You are arguing about the color khorne red. When did I mention color red khorne was orange? I said that the colors for the blood ravens where changed, the red used to be more scarlet and its now more orangy. In the game the blood ravenms standard color is evil sunz scarlet btw.


Again, Base Color for blood ravens red in the game is Evil sunz scarlet. Or at least is listed in it. Please do research before throwing arguments.

















Again, i answered to your post and the color you showed after the patch is not orange. It changes slightly to previous one at least as shown on your pictures.


I showed you that color on my picture and it is not AT all like yours it is a really deep red. More red-ish is not possible. The fact that you were able to take a screenshot of that color and it differes from mine means something is odd with your gpu's rendering as this cannot be the monitor. But it cannot be the game as well otherwise i would have also a changed color.


It must be somthing either with your driver, or some strange effect of the game engine with your card and driver.


So no, i am not trolling. I am trying to explain you a) that what you percieved as orange is not orange at all and b) i even do not have the colors you screenshotted.

yes you are trolling and gaslighting. You provide no evidence and yet many other people are confirming me this. I dont like to block people but I have no time for what could actually be a bot account.

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