Is it me or does fencing weapons only give you so many pings? I’m pretty decent at this game,  (or I like to think so) but I feel like my timing is the same but I only can get so many parries. Twice today I have had multiple enemies take me down when I feel Iike I timed the parry right. Before the patch I would be able to get a gun strike or parry even if there were multiple enemies. In back to back missions I feel like the game didn’t give me the parry when the timing was correct. One was even during a gun strike on another enemy. I’m not sure what happened, but I feel like you can’t just parry back to back any longer. I know they nerfed fencing weapons a bit, but I feel like they nerfed how many parries you can get. Anyone else feel this?

Were you using the chainsword?

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Shining_Darkness wrote:

Were you using the chainsword?

Yes, I absolutely was using the chain sword. 

Yeah, I stopped playing after trying to figure out the new timing, if there was any, but still got downed by minoris nonsense vs the regular ranged nonsense

Idk, with power sword, I feel the same, just seems embarrassing now, if there are 6 or more minions, you seems a guardsman, just cannot parry like before, multiple parry seems just broken or not correctly working like before, this ruined the gameplay I liked... The nerf direction in this game is just nosense, melee it's even worst than before now...

they need to revert this

I’ve experience this with both the chain sword and the power sword. The parry for both weapons is just bad, at least from my experience. I’ve attempted multiple times to try and parry multiple enemies. I can’t! 

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RodRhod wrote:

I’ve experience this with both the chain sword and the power sword. The parry for both weapons is just bad, at least from my experience. I’ve attempted multiple times to try and parry multiple enemies. I can’t! 

Yes, loose an ops yesterday with my bulwark, at letal, not for anything, but coz in melee now I'm useless, really embarrassing session, just ruined the game for me, I quit from now, if they bring back the game I've purchased and played all this month ok, if they just nerfed melee, and ruined the core mechanic of it, and the flow of combat, I'm done this time, can't stand a core gameplay totally changed from a patch 🤷‍♂️ and plus... The paid DLC of Dark Angels are wrong too, green weapon? 😅 Wrogn symbols? Damn... This update it's a disappointment... Hope a revamp in next days, or really I'm sad... 

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Shining_Darkness wrote:

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RodRhod wrote:

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Shining_Darkness wrote:

Were you using the chainsword?

Yes, I absolutely was using the chain sword. 

The chainsword seems to be the most heavily effected weapon when it comes to the fencing weapons being inappropriately touched. It has been confirmed there are several "bugs" with fencing weapons including they seemingly removed the fencing weapon's bonus perfect parry frames on some weapons.

This has resulted in instances of chainsword users experiencing "unable to parry" states where you do the animation, hit the button at the right time but your character do not parry and you just continuously eat attacks. Only way to fix it is to dodge to hopefully reset your state and avoid getting attacked by multiple minoris. (they seem to be the worst offenders for triggering this "unable to parry" state)

it's not only the chainsword, i tested few weapons, Thunderhammer, Powersword, Combat-Knive and Chainsword. The effect is on every weapon, but also not all the time in the game sometimes it works fine, somtimes i cant even parry small minion attacks to even push them back...  No Dodging is not the correct way to fix this, dev's have to work on it to get it fixed very quickly!

I'll repost this since people still seems to be unaware that the actual changes done to fancing weapons have nothing to do with shorter parry aoe, and everything to do with parry timing window.

​Here is the undocumented change that makes parry effectively nerfed on fencing weapons.

Patch4.5 melee_modifiers_library.sso

chainsword_03_a = { ... { type = "MELEE_RIPOSTE_WINDOW" bonus = 0.495 applyType = "ABSOLUTE" } ... }

Patch5.0 melee_modifiers_library.sso

chainsword_03_a = { ... { type = "MELEE_RIPOSTE_WINDOW" bonus = 0 }, ... }

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Yosseff wrote:

I'll repost this since people still seems to be unaware that the actual changes done to fancing weapons have nothing to do with shorter parry aoe, and everything to do with parry timing window.

​Here is the undocumented change that makes parry effectively nerfed on fencing weapons.

Patch4.5 melee_modifiers_library.sso

chainsword_03_a = { ... { type = "MELEE_RIPOSTE_WINDOW" bonus = 0.495 applyType = "ABSOLUTE" } ... }

Patch5.0 melee_modifiers_library.sso

chainsword_03_a = { ... { type = "MELEE_RIPOSTE_WINDOW" bonus = 0 }, ... }

Thank you for bringing light in the dark. :D That explains a lot. ;)

Dunno if you ppl havent followed the sitch on Discord, but the devs said they are going to patch it up as well. 

"@Space Marines The aforementioned issue with inputs being randomly disabled is fixed. You might need to restart Steam and/or your PC to see the change. On another note, we're aware of the control rebind issues and bugs with parry. We're working on it. Once again, sorry for the inconvenience."

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maffaxxx wrote:

Dunno if you ppl havent followed the sitch on Discord, but the devs said they are going to patch it up as well. 

"@Space Marines The aforementioned issue with inputs being randomly disabled is fixed. You might need to restart Steam and/or your PC to see the change. On another note, we're aware of the control rebind issues and bugs with parry. We're working on it. Once again, sorry for the inconvenience."

Sorry brother, i didn't and why should i? This site is the site to work togheter with community? It should be on this site here under news, if they have something to say or appologize. ;) or im wrong? Then sorry from my side... For the emperor! 

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OldandFurious wrote:

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maffaxxx wrote:

Dunno if you ppl havent followed the sitch on Discord, but the devs said they are going to patch it up as well. 

"@Space Marines The aforementioned issue with inputs being randomly disabled is fixed. You might need to restart Steam and/or your PC to see the change. On another note, we're aware of the control rebind issues and bugs with parry. We're working on it. Once again, sorry for the inconvenience."

Sorry brother, i didn't and why should i? This site is the site to work togheter with community? It should be on this site here under news, if they have something to say or appologize. ;) or im wrong? Then sorry from my side... For the emperor! 

Forums are so 30K, in the 40k discord is the thing 😁

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Yosseff wrote:

I'll repost this since people still seems to be unaware that the actual changes done to fancing weapons have nothing to do with shorter parry aoe, and everything to do with parry timing window.

​Here is the undocumented change that makes parry effectively nerfed on fencing weapons.

Patch4.5 melee_modifiers_library.sso

chainsword_03_a = { ... { type = "MELEE_RIPOSTE_WINDOW" bonus = 0.495 applyType = "ABSOLUTE" } ... }

Patch5.0 melee_modifiers_library.sso

chainsword_03_a = { ... { type = "MELEE_RIPOSTE_WINDOW" bonus = 0 }, ... }

Out of curiosity can you find the values for the other weapons. The chainsword feels the most effected due to losing the entirety of its bonus frames but what do the other weapons look like in the data?

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RodRhod wrote:

Is it me or does fencing weapons only give you so many pings? I’m pretty decent at this game,  (or I like to think so) but I feel like my timing is the same but I only can get so many parries. Twice today I have had multiple enemies take me down when I feel Iike I timed the parry right. Before the patch I would be able to get a gun strike or parry even if there were multiple enemies. In back to back missions I feel like the game didn’t give me the parry when the timing was correct. One was even during a gun strike on another enemy. I’m not sure what happened, but I feel like you can’t just parry back to back any longer. I know they nerfed fencing weapons a bit, but I feel like they nerfed how many parries you can get. Anyone else feel this?

​Hello Brother, RodRhod!

Brother Nephyrael here, from Focus Support. First of all, we are so happy to see you guys so eager to help us improve the Game and the overall experience for all our battle brothers.

We greatly appreciate discussions like this. Fencing weapons are indeed a controversial topic, but this thread, along with all the comments and interest from the gaming community, provides us with invaluable insights. Your contributions help us understand what gamers are truly seeking, and we will ensure that all this information is communicated to our development team. They will take your feedback into account as they work on future updates and improvements.

We know that the new patch faced some difficulties, but I can assure you that our brothers are working on these details right now. We are constantly hearing your feedback, and suggestion for the future of the game. 

Please stay tuned to our official channels to continue receiving the most up-to-date news.

Emperor Protects!

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maffaxxx wrote:

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OldandFurious wrote:

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maffaxxx wrote:

Dunno if you ppl havent followed the sitch on Discord, but the devs said they are going to patch it up as well. 

"@Space Marines The aforementioned issue with inputs being randomly disabled is fixed. You might need to restart Steam and/or your PC to see the change. On another note, we're aware of the control rebind issues and bugs with parry. We're working on it. Once again, sorry for the inconvenience."

Sorry brother, i didn't and why should i? This site is the site to work togheter with community? It should be on this site here under news, if they have something to say or appologize. ;) or im wrong? Then sorry from my side... For the emperor! 

Forums are so 30K, in the 40k discord is the thing 😁

not able to connect there! ;)