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PvP ordeals are just out of touch

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11 days ago
Feb 10, 2025, 7:35:31 PM

Especially the ones which require bad enemy team. All of them are way too situational and player has 0 control over them (starting with if enemy just won't pick the class you need to kill).


Fortune reversed - Kill tactical enemies while you are marked by their Auspex Scan. If there are 2 - you need to kill the right soldier. Being auspexed there are 2 possibilities: steal a kill or find really bad player.


Anti-Aircraft - Kill Assaults enemies whille they are in the air. No questions - pretty much most of Assault kills goes this way so it is natural to do.


Tombstone - Kill Bulwark enemies while they are near their Banner. When alone otherwise I'm the one who is getting killed. Also would be good not to get any of the plasma shots in the face as I approach Bulwark. Or steal a kill. Or bad enemy.


Seek and Destroy - Kill Sniper enemies while they are camoflaged. Pretty sucks because I need OHK Sniper because otherwise they shoot back and camo just drops off. The only chance is to kill the one who tries to run away with camo.


Tarnished Halo - Kill Heavy enemies while their Iron Halo is active. The thing is that someone need to distract Heavy. Otherwise they won't activate Halo. In this case I need to be behind that said Heavy AND simultaneously my teammates need to be bad enough to not disable that Halo before I get a kill. Or bad enemies.


Grind them to Dust - As an Assault, kill 5 or more enemies in 1 match with Ground Pound. No questions, most kills goes this way. Pretty natural.


Death Launch - As a Vanguard, use the Grapnel Launcher to kill an enemy or assist a Squad Member in killing an enemy. So, if Grapnel is over it doesn't count. I just need to stun in the last moment to trigger it. Kinda sucks.


On me - As a Bulwark, resore full armour to 10 or more Squad Members in 1 match with the Chapter Banner. Sounds pretty natural overall.


Reconnaissance - As a Tactical, mark 4 or more enemies with a single Auspex Scan. Doable ONLY when enemies are bad. Otherwise no chance.


Kill Score - As a Sniper, kill 5 enemies in 1 match while camouflages or within 2 seconds of Camo Cloak deactivation. Pretty ok, more or less natural gameplay for sniper.


Beacon of Light - As a Heavy, kill or assist Squad Members in killing 10 or more enemies in 1 match while Iron Halo is active. Pretty natural Heavy gameplay I would say. No questions here.


Shredding shrapnel - Kill 3 or more enemies with a single Frag Grenade. This happens pretty much never. Let alone 30 times. If you spent in PvP more than 0.1  nanosecond you have seen that your enemy have to be so bad to die 3 from a single frag grenade. 


Blinded by the light - Blind 3 enemies with 1 shock grenade. Sucks but probably doable.


It looks like half of those ordeals are made by people who don't even know how PvP works and plays in this game. I'm not saying I'm best PvP player but TBH I'm quite often within top 3 so at least I had my fair share with PvP. I don't expect those being changed in any way. Would be nice but I don't think it will be done. The worst thing is that most of it is out of players control to do and depends on the enemy to have this class and being bad in PvP in general. All 28 lvl sweats won't make those happen ever. 


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10 days ago
Feb 11, 2025, 9:49:04 AM

The ordeals suck full stop. One single Operation ordeal will take up to approximately 250 hours of gameplay just for 9 data slates. The devs are completely out of touch with reality.

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10 days ago
Feb 11, 2025, 9:59:20 AM

This made me reconcile with the fact I will never unlock the whole encyclopedia (or whatever it's called). I absolutely hate achievements or any kinds of tasks that are PvP-oriented, especially in a game where co-op is the focus.

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7 days ago
Feb 14, 2025, 1:15:11 PM

CzechKnight wrote:

This made me reconcile with the fact I will never unlock the whole encyclopedia (or whatever it's called). I absolutely hate achievements or any kinds of tasks that are PvP-oriented, especially in a game where co-op is the focus.

In the current state I don't thing anyone would be able to unlock it all.

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7 days ago
Feb 15, 2025, 4:07:07 AM

I agree some of those pvp ones look rough.  Probably some of the hardest ones to complete in the game.  Some of the pvp ordeals are not too bad. Like complete X number of matches of a certain game type.  Those are good. Just have to show up win or lose you get credit. They could of taken some of those crazy ones out and if going for class specific ones make it like get 50 kills as tactical class or get whatever number of kills with whatever grenade type.  Things like that.

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6 days ago
Feb 15, 2025, 12:59:33 PM

What makes them suck it that they require INSANLUCK to work in your favour to complete them while in Operations or Campaign it is not that way. You invest time = you complete all of them sooner or later.


In case of PvP ones however, you can invest time and still not complete them. The most absurd one is of course Shredding shrapnel. I played some PvP, maybe 40 hours and I never ever seen someone kill 3 enemies with one frag. Not even when one team got rekt so hard they were sieged at spawn area. It just doesn't happen. I would understand if it was some one time Ordeal - once in lifetime maybe you will perform this lucky throw at Capture and Hold or whatever, but doing it multiple times is simmilar to real life Ordeal: win eurojackpot 0/30. 

Good luck man. 

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4 days ago
Feb 17, 2025, 6:41:14 AM

well I unlocked the Thousand Sons and Imperial Guard encyclopedia already, now I am on my way for the space marine one but... yeah some of these pvp ordeals are absolutely nuts lol. Let alone the lictor ones.

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4 days ago
Feb 17, 2025, 1:55:26 PM

Pitalla wrote:

well I unlocked the Thousand Sons and Imperial Guard encyclopedia already, now I am on my way for the space marine one but... yeah some of these pvp ordeals are absolutely nuts lol. Let alone the lictor ones.

Whats problem with lictor? This ordeal easy do it in campagin.

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4 days ago
Feb 17, 2025, 2:04:51 PM

Pitalla wrote:

Also MASSACRE ordeal is glitched... it wont go up no matter what.

Why? U must kill 20 enemy in one match. I had this ordeal without problem. In general I have some questions about Kill Score because I kill 10+ opponents per fight, mostly from invisibility, but haven't gotten a single tick.

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4 days ago
Feb 17, 2025, 2:57:35 PM

sWolflords wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

Also MASSACRE ordeal is glitched... it wont go up no matter what.

Why? U must kill 20 enemy in one match. I had this ordeal without problem. In general I have some questions about Kill Score because I kill 10+ opponents per fight, mostly from invisibility, but haven't gotten a single tick.

Yea its one of easiest. Just pick Assault class and play some ground control mode, not annihilation. It took me one game.

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2 days ago
Feb 19, 2025, 10:27:53 PM

At the same time there are so many "medals" after a match. Why not to tie it to them?

Other option I see is to make it as Sniper have right now with "after 2 seconds". It could be applied to some other BS ordeals.

The one with frag nade just shouldn't exist tho. Even 1 is impossible.

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a day ago
Feb 20, 2025, 5:43:10 AM

sWolflords wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

well I unlocked the Thousand Sons and Imperial Guard encyclopedia already, now I am on my way for the space marine one but... yeah some of these pvp ordeals are absolutely nuts lol. Let alone the lictor ones.

Whats problem with lictor? This ordeal easy do it in campagin.

Getting it before it attacks you its difficult and must be done in the campaign, just before it jumps you.

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a day ago
Feb 20, 2025, 8:47:59 AM

Pitalla wrote:

sWolflords wrote:

Pitalla wrote:

well I unlocked the Thousand Sons and Imperial Guard encyclopedia already, now I am on my way for the space marine one but... yeah some of these pvp ordeals are absolutely nuts lol. Let alone the lictor ones.

Whats problem with lictor? This ordeal easy do it in campagin.

Getting it before it attacks you its difficult and must be done in the campaign, just before it jumps you.

This is easier to do in the Tactical trials, I did make a clip in another post. Here

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