​ Another thread about the auto bolt rifle and its poor state in the game, even in 7.0 with the new perks the weapon doesn't feel good 

1 because it has simply fewer options and therefore points for upgrading perks, there are only 8 of them, 2 versions per level, when other weapons get 3 and sometimes 4 versions and 4 points for upgrading. 

2 weapons do not have their own role in the line of weapons tactical. It has both a smg carbine, for close combat, and just a rifle that has more damage in general and has a grenade launcher, and a heavy bolt rifle which is the same as an autobolt, but better in everything 

3 weapons need their own role, and simply fixing damage numbers, damage multiplier for headshots or clip damage won't fix it. More precisely, developers can set all this up themselves.

And here's what I suggest besides expanding the upgrade tree by adding at least one more option per level. Then what if we make the autobolt rifle the weapon with the smallest spread when firing from the hip, and with perks we bring it almost to zero, that is, it will be the ideal weapon for those who like to be constantly on the move, go into close combat, handing out giving out headshots without aiming at close and medium range  make it a specific feature of the auto bolt rifle, that is, we will have a regular rifle for those who aim at the head for more damage from headshots and better position themselves on the battlefield, and an auto bolt rifle for those who rush headlong into battle shooting from the hip I would also, in order to share roles with a heavy bolt rifle, add enemy penetration as a basic feature, which can also be improved with a perk tree and more damage from block penetration, about 75%. 

1 And then we would have a standard bolt rifle for more damage, especially when aiming at the head and GL

2 Autobolt rifle, perfect hip fire accuracy and slightly less damage both normal and headshot

3 Heavy bolt rifle, penetration of multiple enemies and block 

I think this would help the autobolt rifle finally find its unique role in the roster. 

I feel like the auto bolt rifle needs to do the same in terms of damage and the bolt carbine. 

I think there are too many weapons for the same role the auto bolt rifle should replace the bolt carbine & Occulus and, and the bolt rifle or stalker bolter could replace the intigator.

A primarily hipfire weapon with low ADS benefit would be neat. Could work as a LMG expy to fall in with all of the other weapons' identities.

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kylefubar wrote:

I think there are too many weapons for the same role the auto bolt rifle should replace the bolt carbine & Occulus and, and the bolt rifle or stalker bolter could replace the intigator.

​I agree. People want more weapons, but there are only so many roles you can fill before redundancies occur.

It's sad to see people misuse or misunderstand the auto bolt rifle.  When I play tactical I am looking to get right in the mix and more melee oriented.  The auto bolt rifle compliments that play style and at the same time still gives you the ability to hit long range targets.  It functions as a close in rapid fire smg plus the long range precision of a rifle.  Short to medium ranged targets you never have to aim down sights you can just hip-fire.  Never have to stop shooting, swinging, attacking.  Can stay in the pocket and always on the move.  If you need to you still can aim down sights and be effective against long range targets.  Other guns are better at a specific roles but none do both those roles as well together.

It has a lot going for it.  Great hip-fire accuracy(especially if you take honed precision perk) short to medium range, good long range accuracy, decent rate of fire, quick reload speed, good clip size, decent ammo pool, and has some piercing for clearing swarms.

I play on lethal and absolute and the end overall damage numbers/kills end up being comparable to any other gun it just comes in split contributions(melee + ranged) vs mostly from ranged.  Fun play style and the gun helps enable that melee oriented style without losing the ability to hit far targets. 

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G07hmog wrote:

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kylefubar wrote:

I think there are too many weapons for the same role the auto bolt rifle should replace the bolt carbine & Occulus and, and the bolt rifle or stalker bolter could replace the intigator.

​I agree. People want more weapons, but there are only so many roles you can fill before redundancies occur.

Heresy!

Give me lightning claws and no ranged weapon!