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What if each prestige XP gain was across all prestiged classes and not just the one you prestiged?

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3 days ago
Apr 16, 2025, 8:35:13 PM

Current system of prestiging is not seemingly going to change. But what if we make it easier by making the listed change? Here is what I mean. Say you get Bulwark to prestige 4. Each current rank gives 10% more and another 10% is added for each subsequent level. 10% at 1, 40% at 4. But, those gains only apply to the Bulwark, meaning once it is done at p4. and you move to the next class, it starts only at 10% being p1. So, what if that 40% would instead of it only benefitting the class that you just p4ed, it would then carry over to all classes you prestige? Meaning you can now go into the second class you wish to get to p4, now has 40% extra xp gains. And then levelling that to p4 would then bring the value up to 80%. With the maximum (I think this is a good value) of 100% requiring 2 and a 1/2 classes to bring it up to that value. Effectively doubling the remaining xp earned for the remaining presitige ranks. They would still gain the benefit from the previously p4ed classes and would then in turn make lower level runs even more viable and the higher skilled players can help push the lower skilled and still levelling ones through while they are taking the more safe diff levels, yet still reasonably gaining xp. This'd also prevent the issue of fresh p1s trying to get into a Lethal or Absolute game to hopefully get carried. And it'd facilitate faster progression and reward players for levelling multiple classes to p4 by making it much much easier after the second class and onward. That said, I think this should only apply to prestige levels and not when you go through to 25 the first time on a class.


That said, I'm also tossing this onto the ideas section as well.


Ideas link here

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3 days ago
Apr 16, 2025, 9:39:09 PM

I think this sounds like a decent compensation.
However I think each class should get an additional 10% with each stage.
Meaning once you're done with 1 class you then go back and start at 10% for the next one, and so forth.
To not make the process too fast/"easy" for later classes going through their prestige.


Alternatively give 20% for each stage.

It is a bunch of classes with 4 "resets" to consider after all.

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3 days ago
Apr 16, 2025, 9:50:15 PM

Rexipher wrote:

I think this sounds like a decent compensation.
However I think each class should start from 10% and go to 40%.
To not make the process too fast/"easy" for later classes going through their prestige.


True. I mean if people really wanted to, they could just go through on minimum over and over which is so easy you could probably turn your monitor off and still complete it. It's more about reducing the tedious grind to those who wish to do this for more than a class or two. It's by no means a perfect solution, as I think it was a bad idea to reset to 0 from the start. But, at least this way, the longer and more classes you prestige. The easier and less tedious it gets for all later prestiged classes getting a much higher xp grade, rather than starting every single one at only 10%. As on lower diffs, 10% is not much. The only real time that benefits is on the much higher diffs. Which would cause issue with those wanting to "get it over with" and playing on higher diffs than they should. It'd effectively (after a class and a half) double your prestige XP gain. Meaning farming on lower diffs becomes feasable, pushes higher skilled players into those diffs for another safer albeit less exciting option and offers a more feasible way to grind it out. Least in my eyes anyway.

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2 days ago
Apr 17, 2025, 4:55:48 AM

I think if that is how it was I would not have any issue with resetting since by the time I get to my 3rd class it will only take like 2-3 games on Ruthless max to get from 1-25 and by the end it will be about 1 game. Maybe just cap it out to a +40% to all classes after getting one to P4? Even that would be better than having to completely start the exp bonus over on each class like it is now. Heck I would even accept a +10% to all classes per class that has prestige 1+ then not getting more per prestige past 1. That way if you want to you can pop all 6 for +60% initial and then by the time you are going for P4 the class will have a +80%. This would take even the most casual of players that only play substantial or average no more than 2 weeks (probably) playing only a couple matches a day.


And yes, only apply the exp bonus to prestige exp not classes than are still doing their first 1-25.


It should not be a boring slog to get the new perks.


I likewise just like the idea of making it +20% per stage instead of +10% per stage.


Really it just needs to be more than 10% no matter how they swing it.

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2 days ago
Apr 17, 2025, 5:30:43 AM

Shining_Darkness wrote:

I think if that is how it was I would not have any issue with resetting since by the time I get to my 3rd class it will only take like 2-3 games on Ruthless max to get from 1-25 and by the end it will be about 1 game. Maybe just cap it out to a +40% to all classes after getting one to P4? Even that would be better than having to completely start the exp bonus over on each class like it is now. Heck I would even accept a +10% to all classes per class that has prestige 1+ then not getting more per prestige past 1. That way if you want to you can pop all 6 for +60% initial and then by the time you are going for P4 the class will have a +80%. This would take even the most casual of players that only play substantial or average no more than 2 weeks (probably) playing only a couple matches a day.


And yes, only apply the exp bonus to prestige exp not classes than are still doing their first 1-25.


It should not be a boring slog to get the new perks.


I likewise just like the idea of making it +20% per stage instead of +10% per stage.


Really it just needs to be more than 10% no matter how they swing it.

Mhmm, exactly my thought process and the general take away. 10% across all diffs (their buff to xp across all diffs as of p7.0) is kinda pointless, only on Lethal and up really is worth it, as even on Ruthless 10% of 2700ish is still only an extra 270. And only getting worse as you go down. As I said, whether it was your numbers or my numbers, even after 1 class you would either get an extra 80% (yours) or 40% (mine) that would then carry over to the next class which would then add to the pool even more. The more you do it, the easier it greatly becomes after the first class is maxed out. And near doubling prestige xp on even substantial would be a massive buff to both the causl players getting experienced ones wanting to do the safe yet still good route of substantial or Ruthless runs over doing a Lelthal or Absolute run with possible lvl 1 trying to get carried.


After the first class, it'd turn from wall-climbing to more of a hill to ascend. And they kind of had it with the extra 10% each prestige level. But, it not carrying over to the next class then goes back to being a slog.

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2 days ago
Apr 17, 2025, 5:38:18 AM

Shining_Darkness wrote:

I think if that is how it was I would not have any issue with resetting since by the time I get to my 3rd class it will only take like 2-3 games on Ruthless max to get from 1-25 and by the end it will be about 1 game. Maybe just cap it out to a +40% to all classes after getting one to P4? Even that would be better than having to completely start the exp bonus over on each class like it is now. Heck I would even accept a +10% to all classes per class that has prestige 1+ then not getting more per prestige past 1. That way if you want to you can pop all 6 for +60% initial and then by the time you are going for P4 the class will have a +80%. This would take even the most casual of players that only play substantial or average no more than 2 weeks (probably) playing only a couple matches a day.


And yes, only apply the exp bonus to prestige exp not classes than are still doing their first 1-25.


It should not be a boring slog to get the new perks.


I likewise just like the idea of making it +20% per stage instead of +10% per stage.


Really it just needs to be more than 10% no matter how they swing it.

And this would also "future proof" for any players that come to the game later, or should 1 or more classes be added. It'll make getting them p4ed muuuuuch faster and easier.

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2 days ago
Apr 17, 2025, 8:37:19 AM

Prestige ranks were introduced to support grind in the game.

You propose change that limit grind greatly. 


Not gonna happen.

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2 days ago
Apr 17, 2025, 11:58:24 AM

Naus_ wrote:

Prestige ranks were introduced to support grind in the game.

You propose change that limit grind greatly. 


Not gonna happen.

Better be getting to pushing that boulder up that hill then XD.

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2 days ago
Apr 17, 2025, 12:08:33 PM

i like this option as a compromise though I was firmly one for not resetting perks but happy to grind exp

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2 days ago
Apr 17, 2025, 12:10:17 PM

MAsHPoTT wrote:

i like this option as a compromise though I was firmly one for not resetting perks but happy to grind exp

I'd rather have not reset perks and just grinded the xp as well. But this I think would be a good compromise. While the method is here to stay, they can at least mitigate it somewhat.

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a day ago
Apr 18, 2025, 3:12:59 AM
No limit to choose perk at each level after reset should be most useful to current system
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a day ago
Apr 18, 2025, 3:40:18 AM

Alkaid wrote:
No limit to choose perk at each level after reset should be most useful to current system

Unlikely to happen unless Sabre says something due to how much pushback this reset to 0 is getting. They saw how many people didn't want to reset. Yet they still went ahead with it. This is more of a middle ground to get the grind over with after doing it on 2 classes.

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a day ago
Apr 18, 2025, 4:00:33 AM

Barricade133 wrote:

Alkaid wrote:
No limit to choose perk at each level after reset should be most useful to current system

Unlikely to happen unless Sabre says something due to how much pushback this reset to 0 is getting. They saw how many people didn't want to reset. Yet they still went ahead with it. This is more of a middle ground to get the grind over with after doing it on 2 classes.

They just copy what they do in WWZ, nothing new, that can`t even say a success way, see what dev team of Killing floor 3 and Helldivers 2 do.

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a day ago
Apr 18, 2025, 4:01:45 AM

Alkaid wrote:

Barricade133 wrote:

Alkaid wrote:
No limit to choose perk at each level after reset should be most useful to current system

Unlikely to happen unless Sabre says something due to how much pushback this reset to 0 is getting. They saw how many people didn't want to reset. Yet they still went ahead with it. This is more of a middle ground to get the grind over with after doing it on 2 classes.

They just copy what they do in WWZ, nothing new, that can`t even say a success way, see what dev team of Killing floor 3 and Helldivers 2 do.

Yep. And didn't like it there either. It be like that.

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